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So you don't shower then? Just hand-washing?
Excuse me?
You don't eat with any part of your body except your hand so why wash any of them either?
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You keep your socks on so that's not really an issue. I personally don't let anyone wear shoes in our house, I don't know what they've stepped on so I don't want them dragging anything over the floors and carpets.
Socks doesn't fix the problem completely. Unfortunately, visitors don't like being told that they can keep the socks on while walking on the carpet, but if they are to sit on the bed or put the feet up on the couch, they should take it off. Don't even feel like discussing how clean are fresh are everyone's socks.
I wouldn't tell them to ever take their socks off, the only rule in our house is no shoes in the house.
Agree socks might not be 100% clean but you have to draw the line somewhere, and the bottom of a sock is bound to be cleaner than the bottom of a shoe.
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It is actually a really strange thing. There seems to be pockets of people in various countries that either wear shoes inside or not but can't imagine doing the opposite and assumes everybody in their city/state/country is like them. Interesting point: You also never see people on TV shows and movies taking their shoes off when they go to a house but I imagine this might be mainly due to the show not wanting to break…
The question is: do you often see people taking their shoes off when they go to a house on Japanese TV shows and movies?
In Greek shows, everyone wears their shoes in the house, even though nobody in Greece actually does. We've accepted it as "one of the things they do on TV", but every Greek home has a bunch of slippers you can wear near the door.
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#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
You keep your socks on so that's not really an issue. I personally don't let anyone wear shoes in our house, I don't know what they've stepped on so I don't want them dragging anything over the floors and carpets.
Socks doesn't fix the problem completely. Unfortunately, visitors don't like being told that they can keep the socks on while walking on the carpet, but if they are to sit on the bed or put the feet up on the couch, they should take it off. Don't even feel like discussing how clean are fresh are everyone's socks.
Just provide your guests slippers or house shoes.
In central Europe it's common to have a special room called checkroom/garderobe next to your main door where you store several pairs of guest slippers.
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#155In the spirit of too much information that is this thread. I was given a lavette bottle after giving birth, and I've continued using it quite often. http://www.amazon.com/Lavette-Bottle-Perineal-Irrigation-DYN... It's an even cheaper alternative to the cold water attachment, it's portable, and you can fill it with warm water.
This seems interesting. It looks like a regular sports bottle. The comments on that item suggest there are more and smaller holes than a single large opening, for a better flow for this application. Is that the only difference? How does one use it? Is there a straw inside that draws from the bottom of the bottle? Do you need to position it upright, or upside down? These two seem more natural to use, If you didn't hav…
The number, shape, and size of holes seem well suited for the bottle's purpose. There's no straw, but you can hold it upright or upside down as long as it's not close to empty.
I think I would buy the same one I have over one of those. For this application, I think I value simplicity.
Women might have slightly different requirements for this than men too.
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#156The future? What about the past?
Washing your butt so it's clean = yeah, that's pretty cool.
Eating the right food (and being lucky to have good digestion) so that normally the paper you wipe with comes up white = priceless.
Of course you'll have to wash your hands, but still, we're not hardwired to make a mess every time we defecate. Maybe you could say that's excessive smoke indicating the engine isn't running right. Japanese toilets aren't a fix, they're a workaround.
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#157After using the toilet, do you wash your hands, or just wipe them? You've just demonstrated why washing toilets are superior. I cannot understand our misplaced, hollow pride in not adopting something which simply works better. I've even heard some especially crazy people try to say the japanese toilets are "perverted" - the hold tradition has on some people is just insane. Japanese toilets are simply better. For some…
I gave in and ordered a bidet a year ago. Not wanting to commit to some of the expensive options, I opted for the $25 Astor Bidet: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003TPGPUW/ Installation involved adding a T-adapter to my sink's cold water line. The whole setup takes about 5-10 minutes if you know what you're doing, or about 30 if you don't. Even if you know nothing about plumbing, you can install this thing with so…
I like that it's cheap but pretty much the bare minimum feature of a Japanese washlet is to let you set the temp of the water. Lots of places I've lived the water gets pretty cold especially in the winter. OW! ;)
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#158Never been to Japan, but from description its the same type of toilets they have in South Korea.
Yeah, feel much cleaner, I wonder how is it hard to get same setup in US
Re: Japanese Toilets: The Future Called 30 Years Ago
#159After using the toilet, do you wash your hands, or just wipe them? You've just demonstrated why washing toilets are superior. I cannot understand our misplaced, hollow pride in not adopting something which simply works better. I've even heard some especially crazy people try to say the japanese toilets are "perverted" - the hold tradition has on some people is just insane. Japanese toilets are simply better. For some…
> Japanese toilets are simply better. For some bizarre reason we've resisted adopting them here. It boggles the mind. That's not true. One major reason we don't adopt them is the cost of installation. If you have an existing house, chances are there's not an electrical outlet next to the toilet. Why is is important? Because Japanese toilets require power. Why does this suck? Electricians are not keen on working on ba…
I'm skeptical that this is the primary reason. Everything you say is true but a LOT of people spend loads of money renovating bathrooms in the US. Just go down to a Home Depot and look at all the fancy sink, shower, jacuzzi, etc. hardware. Yet I've never seen a Japanese toilet in an American home. In general, toilets just don't seem to be something that gets any sort of special treatment in bathroom remodels. And none of the companies that make all the aforementioned hardware make anything other than standard sit toilets AFAIK.
I suspect it's just something that most Americans (and Europeans) simply haven't experienced or are even aware of. And it probably doesn't help that the initial reaction is probably negative--which may be why nobody's made a serious attempt to push these in the US.
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The reason you wash your hands is so that you don't spread pathogens to yourself and others. As far as I can tell, that's not the primary reason you wipe your behind.
I think if I got mud on, say, my inner thigh, I'd still want to clean it off. With water.
If I was, say, playing football with friends, and somehow got mud on my inner thigh, I might wipe it off with paper, and then later take a shower.