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GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

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Re: GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

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Facial recognition technology, combined with every camera on earth. They are laying the foundations for a 24/7 ubiquitous and always-on surveillance and tracking system. The ultimately goal might be to use very little resources (humans, drones, etc) yet achieve a near-omnipotent level of power and influence. If they are able to conflate many such methods and systems into one sense of intelligence, then their ability…

Sure, but in this end of the world, machine domination, and terminator like scenario, they still need to convince us to use a webcam and a mic on the computer.

Two things:

1) They grabbed these images just to test their image recognition.

2) Earlier leaks have already shown that cameras and microphones can be accessed without user knowledge, and earlier defects in products show that the light does not always come on for cameras.

You're imagining that they will ask for consent. They will not. You are equipping yourself with a lot of sensors in a network connected device, and to this they simply say "Thank you". Or would, except they're not going to say anything.

Re: GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

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According to this random stackoverflow response, Yahoo video just uses JPEG 2000 compressed frames. If true then Yahoo chat is probably super easy to pick individual frames from. That's likely why the GCHQ picked it for their project...

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5257228/do-you-know-what-...

There isn't really any new moral here; other than the idea that some unprotected data is in a sense even more unprotected than other data.

Re: GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

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This really isn't any worse than the other invasions of privacy that have been revealed – but it's much easier to point at it as an egregious and visceral violation of privacy. Even though webcam stills may be the least important (or useful) spying the US and UK have been doing, this may be some of the best fodder for arguments to limit such activities. So thank you, UK, for being so dumb.

This really isn't any worse than the other invasions of privacy that have been revealed I think you're incorrect on this. The level of intrusion here is much greater. There is a reason why video phones never really replaced voice: they are too revealing. This borders on voyeurism. Remember the stories of TSA agents joking about what they saw on full body scanners? I don't believe it is credible to think that these ty…

This is also an excellent counter to the argument "I have nothing to hide."

Re: GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

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This is why I have a piece of cardboard hanging over my webcam. That would have seemed extremely paranoid last year.

I hope you have unsoldered your microphone also.

I found that 2 layers of etape over my laptop microphone muffles it quite nicely -- no signal even when I shout. Easy to remove and reinstall, too.

Re: GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

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What the hell is going on in this world? When did everybody loss their minds? How can you even start to ponder if it might be a good idea to record web chats from random internet users, even less actually do it? Mankind, I am disgusted. Seriously disgusted.

The thing is, most people you meet on a daily basis are generally good people (well the ones I meet are). Its the that arseholes seem to aspire to have power and control over everyone else.

Re: GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

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I know it's tempting to see the younger generation as a sign of larger cultural shifts, but the Baby Boomers were once a lot like the Millennials, and one day the Millennials will be a lot like the Baby Boomers.

Considering just how much the sexual revolution reversed itself after HIV became well-known, Millennials are positively prudish compared to Boomers and Gen X-ers at the same age.

Absolutely. The Millenials are like the Silent Generation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silent_Generation

Re: GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

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ISTR that in the futuristic dystopia depicted in V for Vendetta , there are government spy cameras everywhere, including in people's bedrooms. And it turns out that's not so futuristic. We're already there. The moment it became technically (Edit: and really, economically) feasible to spy on people's bedrooms, our governments leapt at the chance. I wonder what Alan Moore would have to say about that. We didn't have to…

That's a poignant observation that we didn't have to experience a crisis of social, governmental, or financial instability, but we did experience 9/11. 9/11 is the catalyst that pushed a lot of this surveillance over the edge. If you combine this revelation with this one https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipula... then you end up with the exact totalitarianism you speak of. Its the efficacy of the…

There were and are people in these governments who know that you don't need the worst catastrophes, you simply need "just enough" and people in the right place at that time to suggest these practices be instituted. The rest of these governments gave these agencies the power and permission to do these things.

Re: GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

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I'd wager that this is one reason homosexuality has been held as taboo for so long: it can be weaponized against your enemies for leverage and power.

I'll cite a source for you: "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

Jesus' ministry replaced all previous commandments. Something Christians have forgotten and an agnostic has to constantly remind them of.
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