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Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by DCoder »

cromulent wrote: post #50

Yet another Adobe story: I paid for CS4, infrequent user, after a couple of hardware changes (SSDs etc) it wouldn't install anymore. Long Skype call to US (over an hour), treated like criminal. Forget it, I'm your customer taking the burden of your business problems. Happy Acorn user now. So many dollars over the years on PS/Macromedia/etc, never again. So tired of companies treating honest customers like criminals.…

> how many times have I bought a movie on iTunes to show my kids how to do it right, and then torrented it as I couldn't wait for the download, too slow.

Hey, at least you have the option of getting it on iTunes. Where I am, neither iTunes, Amazon Instant Video or any other online service is willing to even sell me the content I want.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by vidarh »

StavrosK wrote: post #134
w1ntermute wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually see native speakers make the "should of" mistake far more often than I see non-native speakers make it, probably because it's a mistake based on pronunciation. Native speakers often incorrectly spell based on pronunciation, while non-native speakers often incorrectly pronounce based on spelling. In fact, the (presumably native-speaking) author of the linked blog post makes such a mistake - he uses the word…

100% correct. Also, non-native speakers tend to make grammar errors, use idioms wrongly, etc. They (we) don't tend to mistake "to/too", "there/their/they're" and "your/you're", because second languages are usually acquired through the written word.

Well, I do sometimes make the mistakes you give as examples, but only as I get very tired, when I curiously start to mix up all kinds of homophones and near-homophones with no apparent connection (particularly curious to me since, as you suggested, I picked up English primarily through writing; it's not like I have a habit of sounding out words. It took many years from I started reading and writing English until I ever used it in a spoken conversation)

For the same reason I can't ever see me using "should of" - it sounds too wrong.

It is rarer for me to make the mistakes you list than mixing up completely unrelated homophones, though, as they're definitively ones I'm extra aware of.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by csmithuk »

hartator wrote: post #132
csmithuk wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This. I used Fireworks MX (released 2002) until 2 years ago

Yeaaah, I am not the only one. It was the good old time! Each new version after the MX was a deception, damn Adobe. You switch to what?

Inkscape and gimp.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by sitkack »

lostcolony wrote: post #19

I find it interesting that despite Adobe (and many other companies) fixating on the idea that really what you're buying is the -serial-, not the binary, they don't continue to offer the binary. It runs at complete odds with the claim, and also what is clearly the expectation of the OP. I think we, as humans, have issues with buying 'permission' to use a good, even a digital good; what we want is to -buy- the good. No…

They don't offer the binary because cracks and keygens get out that make installing it trivial. And since the version N-1 or more back is still totally useful they don't want to support shooting their own bottom line. What they _should_ do is offer a signed realtime .dmg for logged in users. But since they are Adobe and have their crufty ass codebase head stuck so far up their hard drive they will never do that.

It is time for terracotta, porcelain or some other ceramic to start pushing their media wielding wares.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by sitkack »

philwebster wrote: post #35
dasil003 wrote: post #17

I was hoping this would be about how annoying the pricing is for Creative Cloud. If I was a designer then I could justify paying that kind of monthly tariff, but as primarily a developer who needs infrequent access to Photoshop or Illustrator the pricing options are just highway robbery. At least in the old days I could pay up front and stretch it out over time to get my money's worth by deciding when and if to upgra…

I completely agree. Each month I spend maybe an hour in Adobe apps, so even the student pricing (~$16/mo) which I'm eligible for, is too high for me to justify paying for Creative Cloud.

The Adobe hater I am ... 16 bucks a month for EVERYTHING THEY SELL is a fucking steal. You should be using it more, not less.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by mschuster91 »

kenrikm wrote: post #127
spodek wrote: post #9

> Me: So you’re telling me I should download an illegal copy of your software, and use my legal serial with it? > Support: Yes Sir, that will work. Seems to me if they tell you you can do something with their product, you aren't pirating. You're following their instructions, though I'm no lawyer.

Well, good thing it's so easy to pirate. Older versions only required blocking Adobe servers in your hosts file. The newer ones just need replacement of a single lib. Why do I know this? because I tried to purchase their software and was DENIED "We're sorry but we can't approve your application to purchase Adobe CC.

Yeah, and replacing amtlib.dll is something which does not work very well. Crashes all the time.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by dkuntz2 »

girvo wrote: post #142
dkuntz2 wrote: post #29

I have an issue with the car analogy. First, warranty isn't forever. Second CS5 was released four years ago, which is a really long time in software, to make the analogy more accurate you'd need to take a really old car that doesn't have replacement parts being made for it anymore to the dealer and claim they need to fix it. There's also the issue of Student/Teacher edition means you can't use it except for education…

Bullshit. Absolute bullshit. When you're paying HUNDREDS of dollars for software, damn right I expect better support 4 years down the track. Hell, it's barely even support. Let me download it, like you used to only two years back. Are you kidding me?

Bullshit yourself. Cars cost hundreds of times more and typically get just four years of support. Hardware typically gets a year free, and it also costs a whole lot more than software.

You didn't pay for any sort of extended warranty. Legally the only warranty required is that at time of purchase it work as advertised. It did, and while Adobe has an additional warranty they've added, it doesn't say you get everything you wish for just because you want it.

Even saying you purchased the full creative suite at $2600, that's $650/year, $54.17/month. You didn't pay all that much for it, slightly less than $2 a day. Even assuming you purchased it near the end of it's life, that's 3 years, making it $72.23/month, which is only $2.37/day. That's less than the price of a meal.

Additionally, they have no responsibility to provide you with an installer. You got your installer, based on the post the author still had the installer, but happened to purchase a computer without a disk drive, which is essentially purchasing a computer without the minimum system requirements of the installer. The author could purchase a disk drive, or borrow a disk drive, or use his old computer's disk drive across the network (something OS X has the capability to do built in).

Adobe also never had to provide downloads of those installers in the first place. Just because they previously had them available to download doesn't mean they have a responsibility to continue keeping them available for download. Your losing your disks is your fault, not Adobe's.

So, bullshit yourself.

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by dkuntz2 »

DominikR wrote: post #62
crististm wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The starting point is where you say to yourself to do it "the right way". It turns out that you had a blind spot and your solution was far from being right or optimal. Time for a reality check. In this case "pirating" was a viable solution but the quest for a binary changed into one about "rightfulness". Reality check: "what are you trying to achieve?".

Of course I agree that it would be better for customers to have the binary available on Adobes servers. What is annoying to me is that this is so obvious and trivial to everybody here on HN, yet this developer feels it is important to declare to the world that he is going to pirate Adobe software from now on because of his "shocking" experience with Adobes customer support. In the end it might even be that the softwa…

The guy's not a developer...

Re: Why I’ll be Pirating Adobe’s Products From Now On

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Post by vacri »

te_chris wrote: post #139
vacri wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A cat5 cable really isn't that expensive. I don't understand the distaste people have regarding wired networking. In my office, I have several people who complain about the wifi having congestion. In the heart of the CBD, with tons of other networks visible. "That network cable on your desk, which I put there for you to use, plug it in and this problem goes away". They plug it in, comment on how quick and clean their…

No distaste of wired networking, just didn't have the possibility of running a cable between both machines due to location in the house.

Sorry, didn't mean to come off as attacking. Just a hobby horse of mine...
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