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Re: Firefox 26 is released

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Post by FreeFull »

dear wrote: post #108
bad_user wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

First of all, it's hard to tell how much memory a process uses. If you're on Linux or on OS X and you're using "top", there's difficulty in interpreting the results. For example right now my Firefox 26 with about 20 tabs is being reported by "top" as using 2190MB VIRT and ~1030MB RES. VIRT reports the total amount of memory allocated, including memory that's shared between processes, including memory-mapped files, in…

In my case, everytime I open a new tab, the mem usage goes up. But when I close a tab, it does not necessarily go down, or just goes down a little. So the overall trend is it goes up, until it can no longer function (freezed up on my old 4G computer). Then I have to kill and restart it. I use OSX's Activity Monitor to see the mem usage.

This isn't something that happens to all users. Ever since Firefox 4, I've been able to open literally hundreds (400 to 600) tabs without suffering much of a hit at all. This is on Linux, and with several addons.

Re: Firefox 26 is released

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Post by x0054 »

rcthompson wrote: post #143
x0054 wrote: post #100

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On OSX I highly recommend YouView[1]. It streams H.264, and CPU usage during playback is 1/3 of what the browser player uses. I guess it really inconsequential unless you are on a laptop. On a laptop it's a difference in 1-1.5 hours of battery life. [1] https://mrgeckosmedia.com/applications/info/YouView

I used YouView for a while, but I switched to Mactubes because YouView doesn't have Retina support. But I much prefer YouView's interface, and I would switch back in a moment if they released a Retina-enabled version.

I have a rMBP as well. You can use a little program called Retinizer[1] to convert YouView to retina compatible app. Retinizer works on almost any cocoa app, I have tried it on a bunch. All it does is set a flag in the info.plist file that tells OSX that the app is HiDPI compatible, the OS does the rest. You should also get Maximizer[2] to add full screen app option for it.

[1] http://retinizer.mikelpr.com/ [2] http://chpwn.com/apps/maximizer.html

Re: Firefox 26 is released

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Post by super_mario »

These frequent updates are going to kill Firefox and it's partially Google's fault. Basically, Google has managed somehow to coax Firefox developers to rapid release cycle with frequent Chrome updates. But this goes against Firefox users.

Why do people use Firefox? Most users claim extensions. What breaks extensions? Frequent updates. Effectively annulling the most compelling reason to use Firefox.

This is certainly my experience. Pentadactyl, the most compelling reason for me personally to keep using Firefox is more broken than not. Every single update in the last year has broken it and sometimes in non-trivial ways, and stretching my patience to the limit. If I have to abandon Pentadactyl, I really don't have a reason to use Firefox anymore.

UI changes proposed in Australis are not something to look forward to either esp. if you like hiding Firefox UI elements and basically just keeping undecorated minimal window with Pentadactyl.

Re: Firefox 26 is released

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Post by kps »

pwnna wrote: post #6
caissy wrote: post #4

> There is no longer a prompt when websites use appcache. Quite happy with this one. I had to develop an offline web-based application a few weeks ago and it really bugged me that I had to allow the application to use the offline cache.

This could be both good and bad.. I would like to enable the prompt.

about:config → offline-apps.allow_by_default → false

Re: Firefox 26 is released

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Post by dewiz »

super_mario wrote: post #153

These frequent updates are going to kill Firefox and it's partially Google's fault. Basically, Google has managed somehow to coax Firefox developers to rapid release cycle with frequent Chrome updates. But this goes against Firefox users. Why do people use Firefox? Most users claim extensions. What breaks extensions? Frequent updates. Effectively annulling the most compelling reason to use Firefox. This is certainly…

I've used FF since the first release and I remember how everyone was stuck with a slow FF 3.X. I welcome these frequent changes, FF is reborn, faster, better. If only this happened before perhaps not many users would be using Chrome these days.

Re: Firefox 26 is released

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Post by Edvik »

super_mario wrote: post #153

These frequent updates are going to kill Firefox and it's partially Google's fault. Basically, Google has managed somehow to coax Firefox developers to rapid release cycle with frequent Chrome updates. But this goes against Firefox users. Why do people use Firefox? Most users claim extensions. What breaks extensions? Frequent updates. Effectively annulling the most compelling reason to use Firefox. This is certainly…

I switched to Chrome because it was faster and I didn't care about extensions.

I switched back to Firefox because it became faster than Chrome (from my user experience, I don't know about tests and whatnot)

Many of these updates are helping them stay fast and haven't resulted in any bloat (yet), so at least from my perspective, great!

Re: Firefox 26 is released

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Post by mcpherrinm »

super_mario wrote: post #153

These frequent updates are going to kill Firefox and it's partially Google's fault. Basically, Google has managed somehow to coax Firefox developers to rapid release cycle with frequent Chrome updates. But this goes against Firefox users. Why do people use Firefox? Most users claim extensions. What breaks extensions? Frequent updates. Effectively annulling the most compelling reason to use Firefox. This is certainly…

It looks to me like Pentadactyl hasn't had an update on addons.mozilla.org since over a year ago, while the "other side" of the political fork, Vimperator, was updated just under 4 weeks ago. I use Vimperator on Nightly with very few perceived bugs (nonzero, but that comes with the Nightly territory).

In my mind, the quicker iteration on features and improved code quality that came from rapid releases is well worth breaking a year-old addon, especially one as invasive into the browser as Vimperator.

Addons written with the Add-on SDK (aka Jetpack) are also much more stable across versions, though they're not the browser-transforming beasts that Vimperator is.

I don't really like web browsers as a platform, but I don't think restricting the pace that new features are released is productive.

Re: Firefox 26 is released

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Post by mcpherrinm »

ahrjay wrote: post #135
riquito wrote: post #21

> Improved page load times due to no longer decoding images that aren't visible (847223) ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=847223 ) This is pretty cool

Hopefully the next step is to take image decoding off the main thread.

I think multi-threaded (and thus off main thread) image decoding landed on Aurora 22, and I assume made it into that release.

Re: Firefox 26 is released

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Post by zobzu »

systems wrote: post #126
yeukhon wrote: post #17

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Yeah. to clarify for people who are not clear, see this https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease/Calendar

will the linux version still show the window frame on top of the tabs? Update: seems so http://people.mozilla.org/~shorlander/blog-images/australis-... why didnt they take this chance to fix this, chromium does it>

i just hide the title bar with the window manager, its linux after all ;-)
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