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Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Post by DominikR »

adrianb wrote: post #88
OoTheNigerian wrote: post #81

Although it may not be a popular opinion, here is the reason: there is only one Google (at least for social stuff) and one login system now. Google plus is the "Google account" you need to use any of their social services. I am frankly surprised that they allowed the login of their acquisitions to stay fragmented for such a long time.

The Google Account was already in use before Google+ was created. The difference was that you could have a mixture of services enabled for your account (I only use Gmail, I never use Picasa so I don't have it on my an account). Now they seem to force you to always have the Google+ enabled even if you never use it. Including for older accounts. I guess this is what makes people angry. It's like being prompted to creat…

No you are not forced to have Google+ enabled on your Google Account.

Some social services like Youtube and Google+ require it, but you could still use Gmail without having Google+ enabled.

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Post by verelo »

"Because you sold YouTube to Google"

In all serious though, I think this just further opens up the door for competing services like Netflix, Instagram and Vine to dig in. With Netflix for my serious video watching, and Vine / Instagram for cat videos, I find myself visiting YouTube much less. Requiring a G+ account for comments is the little extra effort that makes me not engage.

IMO YouTube on its way to be the MySpace of video.

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Post by fierycatnet »

sker wrote: post #20

I've pretty much given up. Google has deleted my playlists and favorites countless times. Every time they try to integrate YouTube with one of their services/account management, I end up losing everything. My only consolation is that Google+ is accumulating a lot of vitriol and hate across the web. It's shaping up to be the most hated "social" product in the entire Internet.

My account just disappeared one day, I was getting some error page that I am not eligible to make an account, didn't even do anything just watched videos. Everything is gone and now I am tied to G+. I don't like Google anymore but I never cared for their products to begin with. Gmail is the only thing I use, maybe its time for me to find something else.

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Post by tiziano88 »

_mulder_ wrote: post #105
goatforce5 wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was recently reading reviews online before booking a hotel in Maui. I was on TripAdvisor and I guess I was also logged in to Facebook at the time, and TripAdvisor highlighted one of my friends had reviewed a hotel in Maui. Turns out Tina liked a hotel that was on my shortlist, and her review was absolutely the factor that made me book that hotel. Thanks Tina! (As it happens, I booked it via Hotwire where you theore…

Personally that would be a big negative for me. I like to go to different places than my friends. Yes it's irrational, but I find it boring talking about something we both know; "Did you stay at the.. oh yeh, of course you did. The view from the bar was... oh yeh you know that too"

Well then now you know Tina has been there and you can go somewhere else, no? it's not like you are forced to book the same hotel because you saw her review

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Post by ktran03 »

I get annoyed by those n stupid popups on every video now. Do I really have to close 15 * overlays before I can watch a video?? really?

Google, how does this add to the experience? How does it make youtube a better product?

I won't even get started on the asinine recommendation system. Backed by one of the largest companies in the world and the brightest employees in the world. And yet youtube gets crappier every year. Scratching my head on this one.

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Post by bambax »

InclinedPlane wrote: post #137
mcphilip wrote: post #109

The longer I use youtube while signed in, the more useless it becomes to me. I have a wide range of interests. If I'm watching the Dead Skeletons - Dead Mantra music video, it's not helpful to have 5 Starcraft 2 VODs in the recommended video list (i.e. I enjoy watching professional Starcraft 2). I'd much prefer recommendations similar to the Dead Skeletons. I've found no way to turn off this recommendation bubble and…

It's really goddamned frustrating and just shows how hollow google is as a company. They have search and ads, and an utter inability to actually build anything else or connect with a customer base. For a company this is like having cancer. It's astounding that they can ignore the situation to such a degree. Youtube is already an amazing force in the world, and that's with google half-assing so much of it. With enough…

But look, we're building this awesome boat in SF Bay from scraped container parts! How cool is that??!?

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Post by lmm »

twistedpair wrote: post #111
ancarda wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. Moral of the story is "Don't fuck around". I like my YouTube account. I don't like Google+. Stop forcing it on me. I'd be happy with a YouTube that doesn't let me comment but let's me upload videos and everything else I'm doing now. Instead, I'm packing up and leaving. The irony is your moral might just work. Google will end up with less and less customers if they keep behaving in this way. Only people willing to…

I guess you're not on FB either, or you'd be upset that half the websites you join want you to sign up with FB Connect. Similar with Apple's services. Single shot services are growing few and far between on the web.

If a site requires facebook, I won't use it. If a site where I previously had an account forces me to shift to signing in with facebook, you bet your ass I'm leaving.

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Post by sdfjkl »

I find the web works much better with fewer logins[1]. In my opinion, the old way of using the web, by URL alone, worked best. Want to share something? Copy the URL to your blog, paste it to IRC/IM or wherever. Those that actually care enough to follow you will comment on it if they really want to (and you want them to). We never needed those moronic sharing buttons, only those who wanted to track us did. And we don't need logins for any of that.

[1] I noticed this since using the Self-destructing cookies addon for Firefox, which deletes all cookies for a site when the last tab on that site is closed (unless whitelisted). I'm whitelisting only a select few sites, and Google/YouTube are not among them.

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