Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

iPhone 5c

apple.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

151–160 of 184 posts

Re: iPhone 5c

#151

Post by JTon »

r00fus wrote: post #101
markbao wrote: post #12

At the unlocked price of $550 for the iPhone 5c and $650 for the considerably-better iPhone 5s, it doesn't seem like there's a huge price gap here. I have doubts whether it'll sell that well as the mid-level smartphone. The 4s is $450, which is closer to the price point I would have expected.

Maybe it allows Apple to play both sides of the whole male/female marketing angle - the 5C is safe to be a bit more "feminine" while the 5S is angular and masculine.

I agree. A lot of ladies I know were already doing this with silicone cases.

Re: iPhone 5c

#152

Post by aespinoza »

mikeash wrote: post #141
aespinoza wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

4 & 4S had pretty much the same external design. So is the 5 & 5S.

Yes.... I still don't see what "3 consecutive phones" is referring to. Apple has generally kept the same physical design for two consecutive models before changing it, and that still holds.

Yes you are right.. I was mostly considering the iPhone 4, 4S and 5 as 3 different models. But I agree. It is more like 2 (4 & 5). Considering the iPhone 5C is a quite different.

Re: iPhone 5c

#153

Post by mikeash »

Timothee wrote: post #150
mikeash wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That would explain the numbers, but I don't see the connection to the 5C's pricing, then.

if people get their first smartphone because it is $100 instead of $200 I.e. people are more likely to get an iPhone 5C because it's cheaper and thus "only" $99 more than the free phone they'd get otherwise. But this is not specific to the 5C, since the same scenario was in place as soon as Apple started offering two kinds of iPhones at the same time.

Makes sense. I think it was the part where this is nothing new that was confusing me.

Re: iPhone 5c

#154

Post by aespinoza »

phaus wrote: post #142
aespinoza wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You know, you are right. It is sad to see that Apple has no new ideas. I wonder if they will ever do something innovative again ? I also wonder if Steve Jobs would ever put a fingerprint scanner in an iPhone, make a "Gold" iPhone or keep the same hardware design for 3 consecutive iphones.

The Gold iPhone actually looks tastefully done. However, I can't imagine even the great Jonny Ive making it out of a meeting with a job after presenting this to Steve Jobs as the future of Apple. http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/139... With this product alone, Apple has lost it's claim to good design. We can also tell, from this hardware release, that Ive's redesigned IOS 7 was intended from t…

I definitely think this is going to be a success. I don't actually doubt it.

The disappointment is that I usually look to Apple for inspiration, and lately, I don't feel it. I have been looking at other companies. Google and Tesla are increasingly inspiring me more often.

Lately, I feel more inspired by Nokia, than Apple, which is depressing to say the least.

Re: iPhone 5c

#155

Post by JTon »

patrickg wrote: post #119

iPhone 5c + 5s require 'nano sim'. What will be next? I still remember using a full size sim card (the left one here: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/GSM_SIM_... )

Ha! I've never seen a full size sim card before.

Re: iPhone 5c

#156

Post by JTon »

wmf wrote: post #115
gareim wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not disagreeing with you; I also think the Nexus line is a great buy off contract but that the iPhone is better subsidized ($400 value for $200 on contract or $650 value for $200? The Nexus 4 on contract was stupid). I'm excited about the Nexus 5, but if the rumors are true that it'll be based off the LG G2, I have a hard time seeing how it'll be offered for $300 when the G2 is the fastest phone on the market.

Wasn't the Nexus 4 exactly the same situation last year, also being based on the fastest phone?

Yeah I remember this as well. Specs per price at the time blew everyone away. Corners were still cut though (I'm looking at you camera and battery life).

Re: iPhone 5c

#157

Post by gwright »

AlexanderDhoore wrote: post #80

I'm very disappointed with the price. 599 euros. Holy F. That's a lot of money. Wasn't it supposed to be cheaper? I guess it makes sense, profit margin-wise. But I was really hoping for a ~400 euro iPhone. That would have been something man... Instant panic at Samsung/Google/Microsoft. Too bad.

> Wasn't it supposed to be cheaper?

According to who? I find never-ending post-launch criticism of Apple products that fail to live up to random Internet rumors tiresome.

Re: iPhone 5c

#158

Post by unfamiliar »

aespinoza wrote: post #118
pavlov wrote: post #84

There's a feeling of déjà vu about this product approach. Take yesteryear's technology, repackage it in a safe design that follows trends established by others, sell for a price that is more than twice what the competitors charge because, hey, you're Apple and your customers will happily pay for your increasing margins. At least this time around, the MBAs didn't get to name it "iPhone Performa 551c".

You know, you are right. It is sad to see that Apple has no new ideas. I wonder if they will ever do something innovative again ? I also wonder if Steve Jobs would ever put a fingerprint scanner in an iPhone, make a "Gold" iPhone or keep the same hardware design for 3 consecutive iphones.

An entire new security system centred around a fingerprint scanner is not considered innovative?

Give one idea which you'd consider more innovative. Go on. Just one.

Re: iPhone 5c

#159

Post by nicholassmith »

aespinoza wrote: post #118
pavlov wrote: post #84

There's a feeling of déjà vu about this product approach. Take yesteryear's technology, repackage it in a safe design that follows trends established by others, sell for a price that is more than twice what the competitors charge because, hey, you're Apple and your customers will happily pay for your increasing margins. At least this time around, the MBAs didn't get to name it "iPhone Performa 551c".

You know, you are right. It is sad to see that Apple has no new ideas. I wonder if they will ever do something innovative again ? I also wonder if Steve Jobs would ever put a fingerprint scanner in an iPhone, make a "Gold" iPhone or keep the same hardware design for 3 consecutive iphones.

Under Jobs Apple released many versions of the MacBook/Pro which had nearly the same external design. I'm not certain Jobs would have loved a gold iPhone, but I can imagine he'd have understood the business reasons for it, and it's not an unattractive device. He was large and in charge when they introduced the flower power iMac after all.

Innovation is a difficult thing to quantify, there wasn't likely to be an innovative step on these iPhones anymore than there was an innovative step to occur on the MacBook Air. The product line is now about absolute refinement. What's innovation? Having a 64bit processor in a phone is a new leap, but expected, but a massively improved motion tracker is innovative in it's own way.

Apple comes into new market segments/product rethinks on a very stretched out basis, from the iPod to the iPhone was a long period of time, they used that time to develop a product that was 'revolutionary' as it hit the market. They've not been in a hurry before, so why rush now? It wins them nothing, but could cost them everything.

Re: iPhone 5c

#160

Post by kalleboo »

outworlder wrote: post #122
corresation wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While this is somewhat subjective, you cannot be talking about the Nexus 4. There is nothing cheap about its case. And this is somewhat bizarre when we're talking about a device that you've never touched (the iPhone 5c), which we already know is made of the much reviled plastic.

I own a Nexus 4, and there is: the backside. It scratches very, very easily. Plus (even though this is anedoctal), it appears to crack just as easily if dropped. That was absolutely not the case with my old iPhone 4. The front glass is fine, but the back is crap.

The 5C is plastic though, and anyone who owned an old plastic iPod can tell you how quickly they got scratched.
Post reply on HN