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UK Porn Filter Will Censor Other Content Too, ISPs Reveal

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Re: UK Porn Filter Will Censor Other Content Too, ISPs Reveal

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The terrifying reality of censorship, as told through the lens of that of China: "I knew of some Chinese migrants to Australia who watched a Tiananmen 10-year anniversary documentary, and apparently tears just streamed down their faces. They had no clue that it ever happened ."

There are people in the USA who have no idea who the president is.

Re: UK Porn Filter Will Censor Other Content Too, ISPs Reveal

#152
post #65

The terrifying reality of censorship, as told through the lens of that of China: "I knew of some Chinese migrants to Australia who watched a Tiananmen 10-year anniversary documentary, and apparently tears just streamed down their faces. They had no clue that it ever happened ."

Uhhh maybe they came from a Tier 3 city or something. Most Chinese I have talked to know about Tiananmen

I know at least one person who moved to the US from China for graduate school and had no idea about Tiananmen. Mind you, it is not something I bring up, she just happened to bring it up during a conversation

It is pretty easy to find Chinese people talking about how few people (specially younger people) know about it too:

http://www.quora.com/China/What-percentage-of-Chinese-know-a...

http://observers.france24.com/content/20080605-tiananmen-squ...

Even those who have heard about it though, many probably haven't seen the pictures to truly understand the scale of it.

Re: UK Porn Filter Will Censor Other Content Too, ISPs Reveal

#153
post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>People often dismiss out of hand the notion that tyranny could possibly take hold over the first world democracies of the west in the 21st century I think that the two most famous tyrannies, the Nazis and the USSR, have given us a very narrow impression of how tyranny can take hold. We think, as long as there isn't a charismatic Hitler/Lenin figure agitating for revolution and preaching a radical ideology, that we'r…

> We think, as long as there isn't a charismatic Hitler/Lenin figure agitating for revolution and preaching a radical ideology, that we're safe. It's a good thing the US doesn't have a widely-beloved charismatic leader sending us running down the slippery slope, then. Oh, wait.

Obama isn't much different than the previous president. He's just more charismatic.

Re: UK Porn Filter Will Censor Other Content Too, ISPs Reveal

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post #119
post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Running a relay to help could be a good start. It's pretty simple[0][1]. The risks associated with being a Tor exit node do not apply to all relay types and the network can be helped greatly by running a standard relay too (standard relays only pass encrypted traffic from A to B). [0] https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-doc-relay.html.en [1] https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-relay-debian.html.en

If I were to run an exit node or a relay node, how would I mitigate the rare-but-potentially-life-destroying risk that my machine is identified as trafficking in illegal bits, due to relaying/exiting traffic of that nature from the anonymized network? I would be happy to donate bandwidth, but that risk is something which I don't feel is acceptable.

You can run exit nodes anonymously. Prepaid, anonymous credit cards are available everywhere now.

Re: UK Porn Filter Will Censor Other Content Too, ISPs Reveal

#155
post #65

The terrifying reality of censorship, as told through the lens of that of China: "I knew of some Chinese migrants to Australia who watched a Tiananmen 10-year anniversary documentary, and apparently tears just streamed down their faces. They had no clue that it ever happened ."

There are people in the USA who have no idea who the president is.

That's probably not down to a censorship 'lens' though.

A more apt US analogy might be how many people were aware of the scale of protests against the Iraq war -- especially the vast opposition to it in Europe. My impression is that US mass media self-censored and barely reported those protests. (I may be mistaken: I don't live in the US, but that's what I've heard from people who do.)

Of course it's a far cry from self-censorship by the mass media to state censorship of the Internet. But for many people it results in the same distorted view of the world.

Re: UK Porn Filter Will Censor Other Content Too, ISPs Reveal

#156
post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And some Americans dismiss their constitution as out of date. It seems more relevant than ever.

Even so, there are a lot of flaws within it unless some people are considered 3/5ths of persons on the basis of their skin. The idea is to transcend, not regress…

But what if you transcend into something like modern day Britain? You let people start tweaking with some aspects, others will want to "modernize" its notion of free speech. It could be such a slippery slope.

Re: UK Porn Filter Will Censor Other Content Too, ISPs Reveal

#157
When widespread Internet censorship started in Iran, they promised it will only be used for porn. Being a religious country, no one protested. I don't say everyone agreed, but because of all the stigma attached to porn, no one said a word or lifted an finger. What started as a porn-only filtering system expanded exponentially. Little by little, the number of unavailable websites grew. Nowadays, most of the internet is inaccessible from Iran. To name few instances:

YouTube, Vimeo and all other video-sharing websites Flickr, imgur and all other photo-sharing websites WordPress, Blogger and all other blogging platforms (and every blog on them) Facebook, Google+ and all other social networks BBC, CNN, NPR and almost all foreign news agencies ... And also HTTPS rarely works. They have limited the HTTPS bandwidth so much it's impossible to use Gmail without a headache, in an effort to encourage everyone to disable it, thus making it easier for surveillance.

Dear British friends, it's a slippery slope. Don't let the same thing happen to you.

Re: UK Porn Filter Will Censor Other Content Too, ISPs Reveal

#158
post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This perfectly illustrates my point. Of course this is not full on tyranny. It's just baby steps toward something which could represent a diminution in individual liberty every bit as severe and oppressive as full-on tyranny. As I said, maybe when that day comes people will have come up with a better name for it. For now we either call it tyranny and risk people dismissing it, as you have done, or we dare not call it…

Perhaps the new tyranny should be called, "security."

It will be. "Security" and "child protection" are two most effective weapons of the tyranny right now. You can pass nearly anything on a wave of moral panic in the name of security or child protection.

Re: UK Porn Filter Will Censor Other Content Too, ISPs Reveal

#159
post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And some Americans dismiss their constitution as out of date. It seems more relevant than ever.

Even so, there are a lot of flaws within it unless some people are considered 3/5ths of persons on the basis of their skin. The idea is to transcend, not regress…

That isn't the lesson of the 3/5ths compromise:

The founders were hashing out how each state would be represented by Congress. They decided each state would have representation proportional to its population. The problem: some states had tons of slaves. Slaves weren't allowed to vote--that was never in question--but slave states still wanted them to be included in the population count to get more representation.

Giving slave-owners more votes by counting their slaves fully would have been much worse, not better, for the slaves.

(An irrelevant tangent, I know, but this historical event is always mentioned in the wrong context and I think the truth is more interesting.)

Re: UK Porn Filter Will Censor Other Content Too, ISPs Reveal

#160
post #93

In my previous line of work, as a criminal lawyer, this is how this would be used: Q: "Mr Smith, isn't it true that you willingly removed a filter on you Internet connection, places there for your safety, and the safety of your children, and now your connection allows you to watch hard core porn?" A: "But... I did it because.." Q: "Yes or no, Mr. Smith? Did you ask for the filters to be removed?" A: "Yes, bu..." Q: T…

"I am not aware of any filters that are placed there for my safety. I asked to remove the filter that was placed there to ensure I have access only to the information approved by the government".
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