Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

My former employer Opera Software has filed a lawsuit against me

trondblog.tumblr.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

151–160 of 250 posts

Re: My former employer Opera Software has filed a lawsuit against me

#151

Post by kamaal »

ibrahima wrote: post #133
kamaal wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've never tried, let alone use Opera. I just keep hearing something like that exists. For now it feels like a 'me too' product which simply exists in the market.

I haven't used Opera on desktop in probably a decade, but it's been around since before Mozilla. How is it a 'me too' product?

Note most people(young) might not even be aware of the era you are talking about.

They might be the first to do something. But so was AOL to many things. Who(or how many compare to their competitors) uses AOL these days?

Re: My former employer Opera Software has filed a lawsuit against me

#152

Post by kamaal »

jarek wrote: post #119
kamaal wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've never tried, let alone use Opera. I just keep hearing something like that exists. For now it feels like a 'me too' product which simply exists in the market.

Was this meant to be a response to my question to `coldtea, or a general comment? The exact same words could be used by an IE user describing Chrome, or a Windows user describing OS X. They make no reference to "better." (Not to mention that Opera - the source tree and the product - is older than most of major browsers today, so technically others are the "me too" products...)

As I replied in another thread, older means nothing.

Most young people don't even care about an era when there parents read news on Emacs.

Re: My former employer Opera Software has filed a lawsuit against me

#153

Post by dlitz »

coldtea wrote: post #101
laureny wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm not sure what justification Opera could have for this type of vendetta-esque suit. The simplest justification there is: they think they're right. Is it so hard to conceive? And until this thing goes to court, everybody should abstain from passing judgment on either party.

> And until this thing goes to court, everybody should abstain from passing judgment on either party. Why? I won't abstain from passing judgement to the party I think is in the wrong even AFTER this goes to court. I don't think court decisions are necessarily the truth, and that I should agree with them. I only care about facts to make my personal judgment. If what he says is true, then even if the guy is convinced,…

> I don't think court decisions are necessarily the truth, and that I should agree with them. I only care about facts to make my personal judgment.

Well, sure, but are you actually going to spend enough hours poring over the details in order to come to a reasonably well-informed personal opinion, compared with what a court will do? Courts are not perfect, but they're generally much better are sorting out the details than the media or random bloggers.

Re: My former employer Opera Software has filed a lawsuit against me

#154

Post by jarek »

kamaal wrote: post #152
jarek wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Was this meant to be a response to my question to `coldtea, or a general comment? The exact same words could be used by an IE user describing Chrome, or a Windows user describing OS X. They make no reference to "better." (Not to mention that Opera - the source tree and the product - is older than most of major browsers today, so technically others are the "me too" products...)

As I replied in another thread, older means nothing. Most young people don't even care about an era when there parents read news on Emacs.

May I ask why you replied specifically to my comment if your statement wasn't addressing anything I said?

Re: My former employer Opera Software has filed a lawsuit against me

#155

Post by sgift »

coldtea wrote: post #98
Osiris wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use Opera on the desktop and on my mobile devices. So does my wife. I'm not going to stop using it because of a lawsuit, let alone for one that has not had any facts proven in a court. I really don't understand why people who don't know the facts of cases like this (i.e., you don't have an inside knowledge of the nitty-gritty), jump to conclusions to readily. Aren't we supposed to be a community of rational, though…

> I use Opera on the desktop and on my mobile devices. So does my wife. OK. We just need to find the other 10. Why do people get out of their way to use some marginal browser when there better both proprietary and open source options available? Just to add to the web another slightly incompatible rendering engine? Or do they really like the gimmicky extras that Opera offers that much?

> Why do people get out of their way to use some marginal browser when there better both proprietary and open source options available?

This is simple: None are available (for me). They are (take your pick for your specific browser):

  - Slow
  - Memory-inefficient (i.e. they either use too much memory when I need it for other tasks or they use not enough when I don't need it and they could use it to provide a better experience, e.g. faster tab switching)
  - Instable for my use case (50-100 tabs)
  - Have no good mouse gestures (all the plugins for FF suck)
  - ...

Re: My former employer Opera Software has filed a lawsuit against me

#157

Post by werid »

abcd_f wrote: post #150
wpietri wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I know from this and the news articles is that Opera has sued a former employee for $3.4 million because they think he gave secret information to a nonprofit. The guy hasn't worked there full time since 2006, but Opera has decided to seriously fuck up his life. What more do I need to know? Google has a thousand times as many employees, but when's the last time they sued one of them like this? Were I in Opera's s…

$3.4 million NOK = $600,000 USD Still a lot of money, but they also claim that they lost $20M NOK because of this alleged breach and that's just $4M USD, which is when put in perspective - peanuts .

there's no such thing as $3.4 million NOK. it's either $ or NOK.

lawsuit is for 20 million NOK which equals roughly $3.4 million.

Re: My former employer Opera Software has filed a lawsuit against me

#158

Post by gws »

magclock wrote: post #43
malgorithms wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can assure you I'd never sue someone for stealing trade secrets. Whatever "trade secrets" means in software, anyway.

How about a contractor selling the okc source code tree to some Chinese "entrepreneur" who launches a copycat site in China that somehow gains 300M members within a year? Just one extreme to make your statement look silly.

That's not a trade secret. A trade secret would be for instance if the Google co-founders did not patent PageRank and kept secret the way the ranked search results in Google.
Post reply on HN