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SendGrid Fires Company Evangelist After Twitter Fracas

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Re: SendGrid Fires Company Evangelist After Twitter Fracas

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Post by dsmithn »

itsprofitbaron wrote: post #66
blhack wrote: post #20

I really wish that this whole thing could have ended amicably (perhaps with Adria apologizing to the devs [by the way, the guy who was fired has already publicly apologized]). It's too bad that sendgrid had to fire her, I would never wish that somebody had their livlihood taken from them like that, but her job was to be a developer evangelist, which is a job she isn't realistically capable of performing anymore. I wo…

In response to the dev on HN 2 days ago, Adria said[1]: "I'm sorry to hear your employer deciding to not to work with you on this and I hope they reconsider, bring you back on and dealing with it constructively" [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5399047

That's not an apology.

Re: SendGrid Fires Company Evangelist After Twitter Fracas

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Post by blindhippo »

seivan wrote: post #65
zshprompt wrote: post #18

I feel that all the threats and horrible comments she received are disgusting. I didn't find their joke offensive. But thats irrelevant. She had a right to complain. But not by posting their picture on twitter. Posting that picture was a really rotten thing to do. Its an act of bullying. I can take a picture of anyone and they would have said whatever I put on the caption. And its up to them to prove to the internet…

She had a right to complain, but not like that, not with a smug attitude, the oddity of taking a photo of two guys having a private conversation (although she heard them, does not make it a open conversation). Those two guys could easily be and my partner making silly phallus jokes because we fucking like to. You have no right to be offended. Which is why KKK and Westboro has freedom of speech. What she did was beyon…

"Those two guys could easily be and my partner making silly phallus jokes because we fucking like to. You have no right to be offended. Which is why KKK and Westboro has freedom of speech."

Sure, you can make jokes about wangs as much as you want. Do so in a public setting and yes you can and will offend people. And yes, they have a RIGHT to be offended by it.

It's inappropriate behavior in a public setting ESPECIALLY when you're representing your employer at a conference.

However, frankly, the resulting firing's on both sides of the table demonstrate the immaturity of each sides employers - and that is what people should be raging about.

Re: SendGrid Fires Company Evangelist After Twitter Fracas

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Post by dsirijus »

natrius wrote: post #54
mkr-hn wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We didn't invent sensationalist media.

There's only five things we do better than everyone else: music, movies, microcode, high-speed pizza delivery, and sensationalist media.

For the ones in the unknown, it's a quote from Snow Crash. Liberal one.

Re: SendGrid Fires Company Evangelist After Twitter Fracas

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Post by shardling »

blhack wrote: post #20

I really wish that this whole thing could have ended amicably (perhaps with Adria apologizing to the devs [by the way, the guy who was fired has already publicly apologized]). It's too bad that sendgrid had to fire her, I would never wish that somebody had their livlihood taken from them like that, but her job was to be a developer evangelist, which is a job she isn't realistically capable of performing anymore. I wo…

>I would feel really uncomfortable if I was in the same room as this person. What if I accidentally say something that she finds offensive? Am I next?

Next to what? Adria didn't fire anyone...

Re: SendGrid Fires Company Evangelist After Twitter Fracas

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Post by burntsushi »

sirrocco wrote: post #47
fatjokes wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Right now it looks like SendGrid fired her because of the DDoS they suffered a few hours ago. Do you have evidence for this? If it were me, I'd fire her because she caused a huge wave of negativity toward the company. I don't know what an "evangelist" does, but I'm pretty sure this is the opposite of it.

I don't have evidence but the timing speaks for itself - in the middle of a DDoS because of recent events they fire her. I'm not saying they weren't right in doing so, but it looks like they cave to blackmail.

> but it looks like they cave to blackmail

I'm sorry, but there is zero reason to believe this over other plausible explanations given in this thread.

Re: SendGrid Fires Company Evangelist After Twitter Fracas

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Post by Someone »

paranoiacblack wrote: post #40
zopticity wrote: post #4

http://imgur.com/5tbXR2c

I don't understand what's wrong with this. This is quite literally the definition of racism in a sociological context: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism#Sociological . You're going to need to disprove a lot of social science before you tackle this definition.

"Blacks cannot be racist against whites" does not logically follow from "racism can only come from the oppressor who has the power".

The group in power can be black, as, for example, more or less is the case in the current South Africa, and may be the case in some subcultures (rappers? Basketball players? Some prisons?)

Re: SendGrid Fires Company Evangelist After Twitter Fracas

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Post by danilocampos »

beachstartup wrote: post #91
danilocampos wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> (perhaps with Adria apologizing to the devs). What, exactly, has she to apologize for? The people in question were speaking like they were in a frat house in direct contravention of a code of conduct they'd agreed to. They had the right to speak. And Adria had the right to tweet. If they didn't like being publicly outed for saying this stuff, guess what? All they had to do was shut their mouths. > What if I acciden…

How does accidental immature behavior work? "let's check out this pitch and then grab a beer" at a startup VC pitch event sensitive woman in front of you hears: "let's check out of this bitch and grab a beer" turns around, pics, tweets, gets you fired on the spot. HOW IS THIS OKAY? public shaming is NOT the right response. IT'S JUST NOT. what a stunning lack of imagination.

So, here's the problem with your little fantasy:

These guys were actually making sexual jokes. This wasn't a single mis-heard phrase.

Re: SendGrid Fires Company Evangelist After Twitter Fracas

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Post by fatjokes »

Joeboy wrote: post #5

Given the way this has escalated I'm expecting it to have engulfed the entire civilized world by the end of the week. You Americans are crazy.

No. Nobody outside the tight-knit developer / tech community cares. This hasn't exactly hit the front page of the NYTimes.
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