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Curiosity images strange metallic-looking object on Mars

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Re: Curiosity images strange metallic-looking object on Mars

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post #146

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> it's effectively impossible to prove a negative. Really? "There is no cat in this box". Opens box. No cat inside. Proved.

You're totally correct. I should also consider the fact that you can prove that negative voltages exist. The opportunities for pedantically ignoring the context of the discussion at hand are endless.

You didn't stop at the "discussion at hand". You invoked the general principle of "proving a negative" and Russel's teapot (which is rather naive reasoning in itself).

Well, proving a negative is certainly feasible:

>In some circumstances it can be safely assumed that if a certain event had occurred, evidence of it could be discovered by qualified investigators. In such circumstances it is perfectly reasonable to take the absence of proof of its occurrence as positive proof of its non-occurrence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_of_absence

You might want to check the whole Wikipedia lemma on "Proving a negative" before retelling old wives tales:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proving_a_negative

Re: Curiosity images strange metallic-looking object on Mars

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post #135

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You don't know. Alien could be of a different scale, ant or mountain sized, and then most likely wouldn't even notice or mind our presence.

If aliens decided to use our resources, they would probably do something like build a Dyson Sphere around the sun, which would mean there would be nothing left for us. It wouldn't matter how big they were, because they would use the resources we need. Look at it this way - we don't notice or mind the presence of insects or flowers, but that doesn't help them when we pave or plow their habitats. A lot of wild things e…

you seem to take exponential growth from granted, I'm not sure why. this seem to be the exception, not the rule.
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