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Re: That Daily Shower Can Be a Killer

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Post by temp453463343 » Thu, Jan 31, 2013, 10:59 PM UTC

seestheday wrote: post #91

daeken wrote: post #71

This is a bit of an aside, but I have to say this: even as a young person, take falls very seriously . I was 22 or so when I slipped in the shower. I was falling to the side and was going to hit my head, so I decided to twist so that I'd fall flat on my back, figuring I'd be fine. Well, I was, until a few hours later, when I started having chest pain and my left arm went numb and started getting shooting pains. Think…

I some similar problems along with significant pain, also caused by falls (and a fairly serious injury that compounded things). I had pain for years, until I stumbled onto a combination of things that completely resolve the issues as long as I stick to them. I'm telling you in case they help. If nothing else it shouldn't hurt anything. In order of importance: 1. Develop & maintain significant muscle mass, specificall…

Word. I got hit by a car while biking 7 years ago and had all sorts of back problems afterwards. It wasn't like a sharp pain, but my back was always very tense and ache-y.

What has really helped me is doing handstand-pushups. You do a handstand against a wall, and then do a push up, lowering your head towards the floor. It really engages all the muscles in the shoulders/back. You'll probably start off by just doing a handstand and then go from there slowly. Once you are a bit more confident you can also arch your back away from the wall engaging muscles lower in your back.

Just like with any exercise, don't push yourself too much and make sure to keep proper form.

Re: That Daily Shower Can Be a Killer

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Post by guelo » Thu, Jan 31, 2013, 11:03 PM UTC

yk wrote: post #76

jessedhillon wrote: post #7

Strangely not mentioned at all, so I'll put it here: Jared Diamond is the author of Guns, Germs and Steel , his most famous work. It addresses the question of how and why European societies were able to advance themselves so much farther ahead of all other civilizations. There is also an excellent four-part series streaming on Netflix.

I think Collapse is better than Guns, Germs and Steel . It is about the end of isolated settlements, and the path which lead them to their demise. And I think it should be mentioned that Guns, Germs and Steel is rather extreme in suggesting an 'geological determinism.' [1] While his arguments are generally quite good, there is simply quite a bit more happening. A nice book to balance this is Ian Morris, Why the West…

I think the reason Diamond's books are so popular and influencial is because academics do a poor job of relating to the public the consequences of their discoveries. By building on the latest scientific findings and filling in some gaps with speculative theories Diamond is able to astound readers with insights that the general public rarely hears. Even if the theories aren't the most accepted by academics the fact that the ideas are being discussed in a publicly digestible way is beneficial.

Re: That Daily Shower Can Be a Killer

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Post by pnathan » Thu, Jan 31, 2013, 11:03 PM UTC

driverdan wrote: post #135

loceng wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will assume you tried chiropractor, acupuncture, and perhaps even yoga?

Yoga, perhaps, but it's on par with other low impact physical activity and stretching. The other two are just pseudoscience.

Chiropractic is often very effective for manipulating bones and muscles into a correct alignment.

While there is a part of chiropractic that is, imo, alchemy, don't disregard the rest.

Re: That Daily Shower Can Be a Killer

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Post by mattmaroon » Thu, Jan 31, 2013, 11:04 PM UTC

I love it when people who don't understand the concept of expected value circle around it intuitively without quite getting there.

Re: That Daily Shower Can Be a Killer

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Post by mattmaroon » Thu, Jan 31, 2013, 11:06 PM UTC

ef4 wrote: post #118

Speaking specifically about fall risk in older people: if you want to ensure a high quality of life when you're older, maintain strong muscles through exercise. This may seem like a no brainer, and yet almost nobody actually does it. Balance and strength are highly dependent on exercise. Even fairly old people can maintain very good balance and strength if they don't let their muscles deteriorate through inactivity.…

Yes! Not to mention it makes you much more resilient even if you do fall.

Re: That Daily Shower Can Be a Killer

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Post by dhughes » Thu, Jan 31, 2013, 11:10 PM UTC

CBC.ca mentioned a study by Simon Fraser University in BC, Canada.

> "We show that the most common causes of falls are incorrect weight shifting and tripping, and the most common activities leading to falls are forward walking, standing quietly and sitting down,"

http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/story/2012/10/16/falls-elderly...

Re: That Daily Shower Can Be a Killer

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Post by saraid216 » Thu, Jan 31, 2013, 11:14 PM UTC

driverdan wrote: post #135

loceng wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will assume you tried chiropractor, acupuncture, and perhaps even yoga?

Yoga, perhaps, but it's on par with other low impact physical activity and stretching. The other two are just pseudoscience.

My mom, a registered nurse, performed acupuncture on my dad for pain relief for a while when I was younger. It seemed to work fine.

Re: That Daily Shower Can Be a Killer

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Post by jokull » Thu, Jan 31, 2013, 11:20 PM UTC

Consider doing exercise that strains your bones and strengthens you in ways that will protect you when falling. Jiu-jitus is excellent at this. You will learn to structure your body, and creating frames with your limbs in many potitions, and you will fall to the ground multiple times. This prepares you.

Re: That Daily Shower Can Be a Killer

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Post by daeken » Thu, Jan 31, 2013, 11:21 PM UTC

pnathan wrote: post #153

driverdan wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yoga, perhaps, but it's on par with other low impact physical activity and stretching. The other two are just pseudoscience.

Chiropractic is often very effective for manipulating bones and muscles into a correct alignment. While there is a part of chiropractic that is, imo, alchemy, don't disregard the rest.

There's also a very significant risk of injury involved with chiropractic procedures, especially when spinal injuries are involved.

Re: That Daily Shower Can Be a Killer

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Post by saraid216 » Thu, Jan 31, 2013, 11:22 PM UTC

yk wrote: post #76

jessedhillon wrote: post #7

Strangely not mentioned at all, so I'll put it here: Jared Diamond is the author of Guns, Germs and Steel , his most famous work. It addresses the question of how and why European societies were able to advance themselves so much farther ahead of all other civilizations. There is also an excellent four-part series streaming on Netflix.

I think Collapse is better than Guns, Germs and Steel . It is about the end of isolated settlements, and the path which lead them to their demise. And I think it should be mentioned that Guns, Germs and Steel is rather extreme in suggesting an 'geological determinism.' [1] While his arguments are generally quite good, there is simply quite a bit more happening. A nice book to balance this is Ian Morris, Why the West…

Btw, I noticed that Diamond has another book out, for all of you who are interested in his work.