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Valve Pushes Out Half-Life For Linux

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Re: Valve Pushes Out Half-Life For Linux

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Post by illuminate »

roc wrote: post #127
Zr40 wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With launch screen, you mean the new Start screen? All Start menu shortcuts automatically appear there (except if they appear to be uninstallers and such, but those are still searchable and can be added manually). So if you tell Steam to create Start menu shortcuts for a game, they automatically appear on the Start screen.

It seems I doubly-misunderstood the situation. If Steam can still trivially get its third-party-bought programs onto the metro-styled start screen, the popular reporting on that situation was off. And I can't even find a story where Gabe himself actually expresses an opinion on, or concern about, the MS App Store. His comments seem to entirely revolve around Metro being bad for desktop usability and Windows 8 not sel…

"If Steam can still trivially get its third-party-bought programs onto the metro-styled start screen, the popular reporting on that situation was off."

All mine are, by default. Valve is concerned about the competition from the Windows app store, not the UI revamp.

Re: Valve Pushes Out Half-Life For Linux

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austinshea wrote: post #149
vor_ wrote: post #139

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> You are replying to a comment which clearly states "I loved Black Mesa," and then go on to suggest that he enjoyed Black Mesa. He was replying to a comment that stated that they didn't enjoy Half-Life but wished they had, and that Black Mesa let them do that. The reply is correct; Black Mesa and Half-Life are different games. Half-Life is a good game, but it's also overrated because it was so novel for being narrat…

Yeah, and the commenter makes this distinction himself. I find it a strange, and aggressive, to make this point to someone who feels the same way. People may be disappointed, people may feel like the commenters in this thread do, and people may appreciate both. This is why it's ridiculous to ask someone else not to express their opinion on which is better.

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Re: Valve Pushes Out Half-Life For Linux

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Post by roc »

illuminate wrote: post #151
roc wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems I doubly-misunderstood the situation. If Steam can still trivially get its third-party-bought programs onto the metro-styled start screen, the popular reporting on that situation was off. And I can't even find a story where Gabe himself actually expresses an opinion on, or concern about, the MS App Store. His comments seem to entirely revolve around Metro being bad for desktop usability and Windows 8 not sel…

"If Steam can still trivially get its third-party-bought programs onto the metro-styled start screen, the popular reporting on that situation was off." All mine are, by default. Valve is concerned about the competition from the Windows app store, not the UI revamp.

If it were about the app store, why does Gabe have nothing to say about the Mac App Store?

In my poking around on this, I saw plenty of assertions that this was all about the app store, but nothing is ever attributed to Newell except his lament that the usability is off and the sales aren't there.

Re: Valve Pushes Out Half-Life For Linux

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Post by DiabloD3 »

moccajoghurt wrote: post #133
DiabloD3 wrote: post #118

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It will, put export SDL_AUDIODRIVER="alsa" in your .bashrc and relogin

If a problem is that easy to solve, I wonder why it doesn't get fixed by the developers. That way thousands of tech impaired users have to google and spend hours to solve this.

Because they built their copy of SDL wrong, plus they're building it instead of using the distro provided one.

Re: Valve Pushes Out Half-Life For Linux

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Post by illuminate »

roc wrote: post #153
illuminate wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"If Steam can still trivially get its third-party-bought programs onto the metro-styled start screen, the popular reporting on that situation was off." All mine are, by default. Valve is concerned about the competition from the Windows app store, not the UI revamp.

If it were about the app store, why does Gabe have nothing to say about the Mac App Store? In my poking around on this, I saw plenty of assertions that this was all about the app store, but nothing is ever attributed to Newell except his lament that the usability is off and the sales aren't there.

Because Mac and iOS gaming doesn't represent such a large share of their business. The doom and gloom doesn't make sense otherwise, Steam functions perfectly well on Windows 8, as do all other desktop, non-"Modern UI" apps, so there's no other conceivable reason for him to get irate.

Re: Valve Pushes Out Half-Life For Linux

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Post by roc »

illuminate wrote: post #155
roc wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it were about the app store, why does Gabe have nothing to say about the Mac App Store? In my poking around on this, I saw plenty of assertions that this was all about the app store, but nothing is ever attributed to Newell except his lament that the usability is off and the sales aren't there.

Because Mac and iOS gaming doesn't represent such a large share of their business. The doom and gloom doesn't make sense otherwise, Steam functions perfectly well on Windows 8, as do all other desktop, non-"Modern UI" apps, so there's no other conceivable reason for him to get irate.

> "The doom and gloom doesn't make sense otherwise"

But the 'doom and gloom', from Gabe's mouth, doesn't seem to be any more extreme than his stated position on DX10/Vista. As far as I can find, the press are the ones taking his comments to extremes, reading into them about app stores, etc.

Re: Valve Pushes Out Half-Life For Linux

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Post by michaelbuddy »

vor_ wrote: post #143
ekianjo wrote: post #74

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Yeah, and guess how much time are people spending on their Smartphones vs time spent on average on a PC ? That should be fairly obvious that the number of minutes of usage per device is greatly in favor of computers vs smartphones. Smartphones are a fashion trend: people like to change them all the time when new models come out because there is a great technological advance currently on their specs. The same is not t…

Dismissing smartphones as a fashion trend seems naive. There is a segment of PC users who emotionally react to the suggestion that the "PC", in reference to a box sitting on a desk, is in its twilight. I think it's due to a fear of losing mastery over the system. PCs are horrendously complex for what most people would use them for--taking pictures, browsing Facebook, watching movies, and so on. It's no surprise that,…

its a valid concern. basically you want all the economies to thrive so new things are being created by new players and everything remains affordable. and a healthy level of openness and modularity is so important too.

Re: Valve Pushes Out Half-Life For Linux

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Post by kunai »

michaelbuddy wrote: post #158
kunai wrote: post #122

Wow, this is great, especially since I'm a Linux user. Now if only Adobe would port CS6 over to Linux...

adobe should have rolled their own linux distro ages ago.

Doubtful, because they're a primarily closed-source company.

Anyway, I'm mad at Adobe not because they didn't port CS6 over to Linux, I'm mad because they didn't even TRY to ensure Wine support for it. Tweaking your application to work under Wine is just as good as writing a copy for a different OS from scratch, and that's the least they could have done.

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