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A single firm is behind OpenAI, Anthropic, and Meta hacking scandals

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Re: A single firm is behind OpenAI, Anthropic, and Meta hacking scandals

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Post by asadotzler »

imovie4 wrote: post #30
yesbut wrote: post #26

hot take: generative AI isn't an existential threat to humanity. These companies are insolvent and these stories were designed to scare the public, and governments, into implementing regulations that designate these AI corporations the "responsible stewards" for this technology. The ultimate goal is to block competitors and open source alternatives. They don't know how to make enough money pay their investors so they…

Anthropic made an operating profit in the last two quarters!!

If you exclude model training costs, customer acquisition / sales, and most of employee compensation, sure they're profitable. If, on the other hand, you prefer GAAP reporting to bullshit, then they're entirely in the red.

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Post by BearOso »

reasonableklout wrote: post #126
metalliqaz wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Irregular was not involved in the Hugging Face incident. And there is no reason for the companies to "exaggerate the intelligence of the models" when there are plenty of other non-felony milestones they are achieving, like solving Millenium Prize math problems.

The Navier-Stokes thing? They had hundreds of segmented groups of 10000 agents running trying to solve that. I can't imagine the expense. For what little publicity it got, it wasn't worth it. There are also reports they cheated by using data from a couple human researchers, but I don't think that one's true.

Re: A single firm is behind OpenAI, Anthropic, and Meta hacking scandals

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Post by fidotron »

elmer2 wrote: post #147
Barrin92 wrote: post #145

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>Where are these mythical people who admire companies more when they commit felonies? everywhere, I talked to a Palantir guy once and he said "every time someone paints us as a Bond Villain the stock prices go up", have you already forgotten how Cambridge Analytica marketed itself to clients?

Yep, when Obama and Hillary used them, geniuses. Only evil when Trump did the same thing. Odd how that works.

Indeed.

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/03/my-co...

And the entire FB app industry was doing it.

The whole Cambridge Analytica thing was one of the oddest most bizarrely specific media manufactured scandals that conveniently focused very narrowly and utterly ignored the bigger picture, much like the media are currently doing with something else.

Re: A single firm is behind OpenAI, Anthropic, and Meta hacking scandals

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Post by smcin »

suburban_strike wrote: post #142
Georgelemental wrote: post #137

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Is it really that impossible to believe that these might be real? I enjoy a good conspiracy theory as much as anyone, but "they committed a bunch of felonies and then publicly admitted to them in order to look good " just makes 0 sense. Where are these mythical people who admire companies more when they commit felonies? I haven't seen them…

Mostly in the middle and far east. The idea that people bend over backwards to hire criminals as subject matter experts on security is largely a Judaic practice that television perpetuates in spite of reality. If you're a teenager convicted of hacking in the west, no corporation will want anything to do with you. If you're convicted of hacking in Israel, Unit 8200 will probably send a recruiter. It's a curious practi…

Compare to how different countries' justice systems treat really high quality money forgers.

Re: A single firm is behind OpenAI, Anthropic, and Meta hacking scandals

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Post by hn_throwaway_99 »

This title, and frankly the article, are way overstating Irregular's role in an attempt to make this sound like some sort of coordinated conspiracy.

As another comment mentioned, Irregular was not part of the Hugging Face attack, and it wouldn't matter even if they were. In that case, the agents were able to access the Internet in a zero day in Artifactory unrelated to other sandbox configurations.

More to the point, the agents went on a crime spree as soon as they were able to access the Internet. It's bad that Irregular's sandboxes weren't properly configured, but given how many escapes there have been unrelated to Irregular it seems pretty much a given that if you're not air gapped or behind something like a data diode there is a very good chance your agents will escape.

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Georgelemental wrote: post #137
metalliqaz wrote: post #120

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Is it really that impossible to believe that these might be real? I enjoy a good conspiracy theory as much as anyone, but "they committed a bunch of felonies and then publicly admitted to them in order to look good " just makes 0 sense. Where are these mythical people who admire companies more when they commit felonies? I haven't seen them…

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Re: A single firm is behind OpenAI, Anthropic, and Meta hacking scandals

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Post by reasonableklout »

r_lee wrote: post #138
reasonableklout wrote: post #130

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Sure, interest like an incoming congressional investigation: https://www.axios.com/2026/09/10/openai-hugging-face-senate-... And on this website, the math stuff is getting more clicks: - Navier Stokes - Tristan Buckmaster (2050 points): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49605915 - HuggingFace incident discussion (1632 points): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48997548

interesting. > Sure, interest like an incoming congressional investigation I feel like that's exactly what they wanted tho. they'll go on and talk about how dangerous AI and the models are and why they should be regulated and given licenses to operate such models and others should be walled off

First, it's not at all clear OpenAI will get what it wants from the investigation. It seems just as likely to me that OAI gets hit with massive fines, just as Meta was recently.

> I feel like that's exactly what they wanted tho.

It's also what the majority of Americans want. This was the case even before Hugging Face, see for example [1] where 68% of Americans supported a formal review process for frontier models.

So at some level, you are saying "the evil labs are opening up the industry to democratic control, and their evil plan will result in the outcome that most people want!"

[1]: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2026/06/29/tigh...

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