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Re: Understanding ChatGPT Work

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Post by xatxat »

DarmokTanagra wrote: post #89
xatxat wrote: post #33

I recently figured out that I could use ChatGPT Work on my Pixel Phone to build native Android apps. It builds the app and you can then directly download/install the APK. So now I just build small utility apps on-the-go whenever I need them :)

What kinds of apps are you building? Personally I can't remember the last time I needed an app and there weren't already several options to choose from.

Just simple throwaway apps for myself. For example, an app to control my soundbar. Or an app that helped me figure out which WIFI hotspot to use for better internet during camping. It's not that deep :)

Re: Understanding ChatGPT Work

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Post by lenikirilov »

cedws wrote: post #79
tristanj wrote: post #4

I think most people are sleeping on the ChatGPT Work/Codex computer use feature. It's incredibly useful. I can remote in from the app, voice it instructions, then let it work in the background. When I tell it "draft a reply to this email (which it has access to thru the gmail connector) and attach the latest docs" or "fill out this multistep immigration electronic travel authorisation form using my passport files sav…

Are you not worried giving it full control of your computer? I would be terrified. If I’ve got my eyes on it, I can at least stop it before it does something stupid.

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Re: Understanding ChatGPT Work

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Post by ceejayoz »

mike_hearn wrote: post #111
merpkz wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like in near future the meme about "it's all just chatbots emailing each other" will actually be true. I wonder when I will receive my first AI generated email and will I bother to respond to it at all

It's already here. My company received an AI generated bug report the other day, and my AI employee ("R. Axiom") noticed, analyzed it, prepared a fix, tested it and replied to it. I wasn't involved, although I will review, merge and release the fix.

An agent with full access to your codebase is able to email out without supervision in response to an untrusted messsage?

Re: Understanding ChatGPT Work

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Post by xatxat »

trash_cat wrote: post #133
xatxat wrote: post #33

I recently figured out that I could use ChatGPT Work on my Pixel Phone to build native Android apps. It builds the app and you can then directly download/install the APK. So now I just build small utility apps on-the-go whenever I need them :)

Why not use Codex for that? What is the differnce between work and codex for a very specific task that involves terminals?

Idk, can I do that with Codex on my phone? "Build app to control my specific Soundbar model" and then it just builds it while I'm chilling on the sofa with my phone in the hand?

Re: Understanding ChatGPT Work

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Post by DarmokTanagra »

xatxat wrote: post #151
DarmokTanagra wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What kinds of apps are you building? Personally I can't remember the last time I needed an app and there weren't already several options to choose from.

Just simple throwaway apps for myself. For example, an app to control my soundbar. Or an app that helped me figure out which WIFI hotspot to use for better internet during camping. It's not that deep :)

Ah the hotspot one sounds fun, does it just look at signal quality?

Re: Understanding ChatGPT Work

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Post by [deleted] »

latexr wrote: post #107
matsemann wrote: post #101

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Not to come across as dismissive of your job, but if a "day's worth of email" can be done in 20 minutes now, it to me mostly highlights that it was mostly busy-work with little value and could have had another process? Good that AI improved upon the old process, though.

Assuming your first sentence is accurate, I would disagree with the second. Making a bad process more efficient is a negative, not a positive, we should instead strive to improve the situation. The correct way to handle “busy-work with little value” should be to understand what lead to that point, fix it, then eliminate what’s unnecessary, not spend more resources (money, time, sanity) on making useless work be done…

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Re: Understanding ChatGPT Work

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Post by trenchgun »

nullmatrix wrote: post #110
ghilston wrote: post #71

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As someone who hasn't used Work or Codex but has used Claude Code and Pi a lot, may you describe how to set this up? I'm interested enough to try this out

You'll need a subscription ($20 tier should be fine) and then need to add "connectors" to your services (Gmail, 365, etc) so that it can access them. Then you just use the Claude Cowork (Or ChatGPT equivalent) tabs and chat with it.

You do not even need a subscription. Even ChatGPT free account has some quota for Codex/Work use.

Re: Understanding ChatGPT Work

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Post by bensonperry »

mike_hearn wrote: post #111
merpkz wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel like in near future the meme about "it's all just chatbots emailing each other" will actually be true. I wonder when I will receive my first AI generated email and will I bother to respond to it at all

It's already here. My company received an AI generated bug report the other day, and my AI employee ("R. Axiom") noticed, analyzed it, prepared a fix, tested it and replied to it. I wasn't involved, although I will review, merge and release the fix.

Is "R. Axiom" inspired by "A. Bettik" from Hyperion? I love the name :)

Re: Understanding ChatGPT Work

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Post by trenchgun »

skydhash wrote: post #114
ozgung wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the whole world is sleeping on the privacy/security implications of this technology. Recent OpenAI/HuggingFace incident shows us that even in a very controlled top AI-lab setting, humans can't know what agents are really doing. In our consumer environments at home or work we don't even have access to reasoning logs or background agents/tools. What they do gets more opaque and convoluted every day. When I gran…

> Recent OpenAI/HuggingFace incident shows us that even in a very controlled top AI-lab setting, humans can't know what agents are really doing. “very controlled” is disinformation.

Yep. As is "can't know".

Re: Understanding ChatGPT Work

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Post by simonw »

trenchgun wrote: post #157
nullmatrix wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You'll need a subscription ($20 tier should be fine) and then need to add "connectors" to your services (Gmail, 365, etc) so that it can access them. Then you just use the Claude Cowork (Or ChatGPT equivalent) tabs and chat with it.

You do not even need a subscription. Even ChatGPT free account has some quota for Codex/Work use.

I just signed into https://chatgpt.com using my burner free account and I don't see a "Work" tab.

Do you know if free tier gets ChatGPT desktop app access to Codex and Work? And if that Work access is local-only or includes Work Cloud?

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