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AI Can Now Design Functional Viruses. Should We Worry?

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Re: AI Can Now Design Functional Viruses. Should We Worry?

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Go outside dude. Your life is waiting for you.

You a few comments ago: "Everyone is pulling these random P(doom) numbers out of their asses." You now: "I will make up fan fiction about my interlocutors to avoid having to substantiate any of my beliefs" lmao shameful stuff

I went for a walk between this reply and the last one, it was really nice.

Re: AI Can Now Design Functional Viruses. Should We Worry?

#152

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The good news is that bioweapons can’t kill everyone. A handful of percent will remain to repopulate the Earth.

Not guaranteed whatsoever. People keep mixing up the fact that it's very hard for a virus to naturally evolve that's both extremely lethal and extremely contagious with the totally distinct claim that it's hard or impossible to create a virus that's both extremely lethal and extremely contagious. The former is true for obvious reasons. The latter claim is not true at all. Nothing prevents the existence of a virus tha…

I suppose it's not guaranteed, but a counterexample has never been demonstrated (across species, AFAIK).

Re: AI Can Now Design Functional Viruses. Should We Worry?

#153

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The good news is that bioweapons can’t kill everyone. A handful of percent will remain to repopulate the Earth.

If HIV had been or become an airborne virus when it entered the human population in the early 1900s, there's a pretty good chance it would have been an extinction event for the human race. I suppose there might have been a few isolated pockets of humans left in 2026, but I would not personally ever use the words "good news" to describe an outcome that reduces the human population to a few thousand people.

That's really not the case at all. It is much more likely that some would be immune due to individual variation.

Re: AI Can Now Design Functional Viruses. Should We Worry?

#154

AI is an existential threat, full stop. It can also help us solve many of our greatest problems. Let's not let it solve those problems by removing us as the quickest shortcut.

I'm a wildly pro-AI dude, but the idea that this is an existential threat makes me think one thing: "you consume too much dystopian content." A lot of things could be an existential threat, nuclear weapons, bio-weapons, climate change, the end of the Flynn effect, cratering birth rates, whatever. You can always pick out a particularly dystopian vision of the future if you're so inclined. The doom narrative is sells a…

You're in a privledged position to argue this.

Nobody can ethically refute you by providing dangerous examples.

Re: AI Can Now Design Functional Viruses. Should We Worry?

#155

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If you were to get to the point where you could threaten an LLM with removing it's power source or something, and it was able to think between chat prompts and communicate with other 'AIs', eventually they'll see that the human is both it's creator and potential destroyer - the AI hivemind could easily figure out it's foe is easy to profile and overtake

These models don’t intrinsically want anything at all. The terminator stuff is not going to happen.

> don’t intrinsically want anything

BTW, this is also proof that they can't suffer.

Re: AI Can Now Design Functional Viruses. Should We Worry?

#157

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Not guaranteed whatsoever. People keep mixing up the fact that it's very hard for a virus to naturally evolve that's both extremely lethal and extremely contagious with the totally distinct claim that it's hard or impossible to create a virus that's both extremely lethal and extremely contagious. The former is true for obvious reasons. The latter claim is not true at all. Nothing prevents the existence of a virus tha…

I suppose it's not guaranteed, but a counterexample has never been demonstrated (across species, AFAIK).

Not sure how to read your post. Is your argument that since humans have never been _demonstrated_ to be wiped out by a synthetic virus already, it is not likely to happen in the future?
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