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EU Age Verification Project Mandates Hardware-Bound Attestation
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#152All this ostensibly to keep teenage boys from watching Pornhub (when parental controls already exist). The real reason, of course, is to force people to connect strong real-life identifiers to online activity. Mobile first, then Windows. Then Linux is too weak to oppose on its own, and will adapt or die.
> All this ostensibly to keep teenage boys from watching Pornhub (when parental controls already exist). The real reason ... Maybe I'm naive, but I think there's no deeper motivation. There are activists and politicians who really believe this is a cause worth fighting for.
It can be both, and there can be both individual and systemic motivations involved.
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#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
Taxing or banning advertising alone would fix literally everything that is wrong with the web.
Do you know what happen when advertising is banned? It would go underground -- product placement, contest, merchandises, and so on. Advertising existed as soon as commerce became a thing, probably thousand years ago. It can't be banned. I wouldn't vote for that. Regulation, on the other hand, is fine. How? I don't know.
You're saying that as if we don't already have all these.
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#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
Taxing or banning advertising alone would fix literally everything that is wrong with the web.
Taxing may be a good way to restore balance. Banning means goodbye online news, Google Search, Gmail, YouTube, Maps, Translate, ad-supported games, etc. -- basically everything we've become accustomed to having for free will want a monthly subscription.
> Banning means goodbye online news, Google Search, Gmail, YouTube, Maps, Translate, ad-supported games, etc.
Good.
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#155Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hardware attestation literally prevents that. That's why it's mandated.
More precisely tries to prevent, but there have been occasional articles about breaking TPMs here; and I suspect once they become a major obvious barrier to freedom, we're going to see a lot more attacks on them, and more successful ones too.
People have been trying to defeat them for years how.
Re: EU Age Verification Project Mandates Hardware-Bound Attestation
#156All this ostensibly to keep teenage boys from watching Pornhub (when parental controls already exist). The real reason, of course, is to force people to connect strong real-life identifiers to online activity. Mobile first, then Windows. Then Linux is too weak to oppose on its own, and will adapt or die.
Parental controls don't exist. Not ones that actually work. That's why governments want to do something about it in the first place.
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#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
The reality of the matter is that it is virtually impossible for Europe to even begin to displace Apple or Google devices, and especially not operating systems and all the ecosystem that goes along with it. The EU politicians are just publicly paying lip-service to "digital sovereignty" while they quietly hope this all just blows over when Trump is gone in 2 years.
> it is virtually impossible for Europe to even begin to displace Apple or Google devices It's hard for sure but they are not even trying, the non-duopoly alternatives are run by hobbyists in their free time and just get shit on by EU bureaucrats
What do you expect - the EU to centrally plan a phone OS? They are capitalist with regulations, you know, not communist. Someone has to actually make one themselves.
Most of the free hardware and software alternatives are already European, like MNT, and GrapheneOS. They just don't have market share.
Re: EU Age Verification Project Mandates Hardware-Bound Attestation
#158All this ostensibly to keep teenage boys from watching Pornhub (when parental controls already exist). The real reason, of course, is to force people to connect strong real-life identifiers to online activity. Mobile first, then Windows. Then Linux is too weak to oppose on its own, and will adapt or die.
> when parental controls already exist
The same parents who give smartphones to toddlers to keep them quiet? Good luck...
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#159I don't understand where the all the EU anti-trust and anti-corruption regulators are here. _Governments_ enforcing that you have a Google or Apple account to participate in society is transparently absurd. This isn't only a digital sovereignty issue, it's also an anti-competition issue.
They already regulate the amount of rain water you can collect, or how much water you can take from your own well, or how many solar panels you're allowed to use
You feel bad because it touches your own personal toy, but if you zoom out you'll discover the vast majority of it was already fucked up
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#160Earlier quoted context omitted.
> it is virtually impossible for Europe to even begin to displace Apple or Google devices It's hard for sure but they are not even trying, the non-duopoly alternatives are run by hobbyists in their free time and just get shit on by EU bureaucrats
What do you expect - the EU to centrally plan a phone OS? They are capitalist with regulations, you know, not communist. Someone has to actually make one themselves. Most of the free hardware and software alternatives are already European, like MNT, and GrapheneOS. They just don't have market share.
What do I expect? Mandating open bootloaders by law, banning device attestation and applying existing antitrust legislation.
Then if they could give a few millions to some open source communities, that could be the cherry on top