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How Google helped destroy adoption of RSS feeds (2023)

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Re: How Google helped destroy adoption of RSS feeds (2023)

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Post by siren2026 »

throwaway63467 wrote: post #48

The Internet in the early 2000s felt a little more special as compared to today, when 99.999 % of content is locked in a handful of walled gardens. I mean sure everything we had then is still possible but let’s be honest everything about the web is fine tuned to deliver ads to our eyeballs, browsers, operating systems and even protocols are being designed with ad delivery in mind. Even the privacy friendly browsers j…

That's exactly why I used to love tech (and working in tech) 20 years ago and why I lost faith in tech completely.

We went from a bunch of open protocols and decentralized web to a full closed garden gatekeeped by a couple mega companies. It is a sad state of the world, but the MBAs and BigTech won.

Re: How Google helped destroy adoption of RSS feeds (2023)

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Post by antod »

siren2026 wrote: post #151
throwaway63467 wrote: post #48

The Internet in the early 2000s felt a little more special as compared to today, when 99.999 % of content is locked in a handful of walled gardens. I mean sure everything we had then is still possible but let’s be honest everything about the web is fine tuned to deliver ads to our eyeballs, browsers, operating systems and even protocols are being designed with ad delivery in mind. Even the privacy friendly browsers j…

That's exactly why I used to love tech (and working in tech) 20 years ago and why I lost faith in tech completely. We went from a bunch of open protocols and decentralized web to a full closed garden gatekeeped by a couple mega companies. It is a sad state of the world, but the MBAs and BigTech won.

yeah, when I first stumbled on to the internet it was all about the protocols and specific implementations didn't matter.

Then later IE dominated the web and hurt interoperability, but we fought back through the Phoenix, Firebird, Firefox era anxiously following IE6 slowly losing market share.

Only to find that the war had shifted beyond clients and standards support to the sites and the power of their business models.

And parallel battles for the old standards based DIY freedom lost to hyperscaler clouds and now AI.

All in all compared to that, losing Google Reader seems small, but it was kinda the nexus point at the centre of it all.

Re: How Google helped destroy adoption of RSS feeds (2023)

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Post by fl4regun »

jfengel wrote: post #93
throwaway63467 wrote: post #48

The Internet in the early 2000s felt a little more special as compared to today, when 99.999 % of content is locked in a handful of walled gardens. I mean sure everything we had then is still possible but let’s be honest everything about the web is fine tuned to deliver ads to our eyeballs, browsers, operating systems and even protocols are being designed with ad delivery in mind. Even the privacy friendly browsers j…

There was also .001% of the content there is now. The Internet of 2000 was microscopic. Now everyone can create content, without any of the friction of hosting it. The vast majority of it is crap, but that was always the case. The main difference between now and 30 years ago is that the Internet is vastly more diverse. It isn't just other CS majors any more. Now everyone gets to wade in the vast crap pool looking for…

i don't think it's fair to say it was just CS majors, I'm a 90s baby and i was on the web in the 2000s when i was in middle school, I still remember reading web comics and forums, messaging people on MSN and playing MMOs with online friends, looking up gameFAQs to get past sticking points. This could just be me, but it felt more social and personal.

Re: How Google helped destroy adoption of RSS feeds (2023)

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Post by gmadsen »

fl4regun wrote: post #154
jfengel wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was also .001% of the content there is now. The Internet of 2000 was microscopic. Now everyone can create content, without any of the friction of hosting it. The vast majority of it is crap, but that was always the case. The main difference between now and 30 years ago is that the Internet is vastly more diverse. It isn't just other CS majors any more. Now everyone gets to wade in the vast crap pool looking for…

i don't think it's fair to say it was just CS majors, I'm a 90s baby and i was on the web in the 2000s when i was in middle school, I still remember reading web comics and forums, messaging people on MSN and playing MMOs with online friends, looking up gameFAQs to get past sticking points. This could just be me, but it felt more social and personal.

The 90s were very different from the 2000s

Re: How Google helped destroy adoption of RSS feeds (2023)

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Post by Kalabasa »

LIMEVINCE wrote: post #120

Google had announced RSS support for Chrome back in 2021 and by the time this article was written in 2023 people were still waiting...

It was actually implemented the same year as that announcement

It was Chrome mobile only afaik. And yeah it was also silently killed.

I guess the author didn't follow Google enough.

https://paavandesign.com/blog/how-to-use-chrome-s-new-follow...

Re: How Google helped destroy adoption of RSS feeds (2023)

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Post by fl4regun »

gmadsen wrote: post #155
fl4regun wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i don't think it's fair to say it was just CS majors, I'm a 90s baby and i was on the web in the 2000s when i was in middle school, I still remember reading web comics and forums, messaging people on MSN and playing MMOs with online friends, looking up gameFAQs to get past sticking points. This could just be me, but it felt more social and personal.

The 90s were very different from the 2000s

the commenter was talking about the internet in the 2000s, as am I. I was only born in the 90s.

Re: How Google helped destroy adoption of RSS feeds (2023)

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Post by ethagnawl »

antod wrote: post #153
siren2026 wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's exactly why I used to love tech (and working in tech) 20 years ago and why I lost faith in tech completely. We went from a bunch of open protocols and decentralized web to a full closed garden gatekeeped by a couple mega companies. It is a sad state of the world, but the MBAs and BigTech won.

yeah, when I first stumbled on to the internet it was all about the protocols and specific implementations didn't matter. Then later IE dominated the web and hurt interoperability, but we fought back through the Phoenix, Firebird, Firefox era anxiously following IE6 slowly losing market share. Only to find that the war had shifted beyond clients and standards support to the sites and the power of their business model…

> ... when I first stumbled on to the internet ...

StumbleUpon used to be an endlessly entertaining way to find new content on the internet.

Re: How Google helped destroy adoption of RSS feeds (2023)

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Post by KPGv2 »

modriano wrote: post #142
tombert wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It isn't just other CS majors any more. Hey, that's not fair! It also had nine year olds who bought a book about HTML and made shitty sites on Geocities!

Those were just CS majors before they majored in CS.

Jokes on you, I majored in pure mathematics.
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