Bananas sprout in Rayleigh Garden UK after 15 years

Post by fransje26 » Fri, Jul 24, 2026, 8:56 AM UTC

riffraff wrote: post #150

fransje26 wrote: post #126

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The climate in Hungary is really not quite the same as in Stuttgart...

I honestly don't know. We do get to subzero temperatures relatively easy in winter in Hungary, it's quite a different climate from Greece and Italy.

From a Wikipedia comparison

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuttgart#Climate

- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_Budapest#Data

(I took Budapest, for the sake of generality, from [1] it is clear that there are significant variations in Hungary)

You can see that the mean temperatures from April to October are about 2 degrees higher in Budapest than in Stuttgart, which is really significant. To give you an idea, that's a lot closer to Avignon (France) [2], which is a Mediterranean climate, than to Stuttgart which is considered oceanic.

I also remember people saying that they could get 2 harvests of figs a year in Moravia (CZ), which you will not get in Germany. Moravia is not Hungary, but it's getting there, climate-wise, and it illustrates nicely the difference a few degrees (mean) make.

[1] https://www.met.hu/en/eghajlat/magyarorszag_eghajlata/altala...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avignon#Climate

Post by foxglacier » Sun, Jul 26, 2026, 11:22 PM UTC

notahacker wrote: post #94

foxglacier wrote: post #91

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You're using the dishonest argument technique of strawmanning. The claim you're sarcastically criticizing is not one that he made. It's one you created yourself just so you could ridicule it. You did this before too with your statement about the Lingwood temperature being due to weather stations at runways. I think what's happened is you've sensed a faint ghost of heresy and were so offended that you neglected to thi…

I didn't create the claim " almost all the records are being set at weather stations that can't measure change in the climate due to urban corruption or being sited at runways", the OP did. When we've had June records for days without rain, duration above temperature thresholds and peak temperatures in rural areas just last month it's.... kind of impossible not to sneer at the insinuation that "almost all" such recor…

>Almost all the records are being set at weather stations that can't measure change in the climate due to urban corruption or being sited at runways.

OK - challenge that claim head-on if that's your concern. It's only about "record breaking temperature in Britain" so you can't counter it with records of days without rain or even duration above some temperature. Your only argument seems to be "I sneer at it".

It seems to be that if there are enough +/-5 degree C weather stations used to pick peak temperatures from, then almost every peak temperature is bound to come from one of them coincidentally being near the high end of its uncertainty.

Re: Bananas sprout in Rayleigh Garden UK after 15 years

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