Interesting. But if Sam really believes that the US public should share in the benefits of AI surely the number should be 50% not 5%.
What's your basis for conflating government ownership with public benefit? Seems to me like it creates a lot of perverse incentives.
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#153It would not be without problems and mistakes in execution over time, but I think the US and our NATO allies should nationalize AI research and development in a sweeping manner, and NATO membership ought be revised to hinge on that. In the US, for example, all intellectual property of OpenAI, Anthropic, et al. would become public domain through custody of the Federal government, probably in an expansion of the NSF. A…
Oh, you have NATO allies now? And in the future what… “we leave NATO if you don’t buy enough “tokens”? Go and build a wall.
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the choice is progressively giving more of the company to the government, or the government taking it by force it was long predicted that it is inevitable for national governments to fully nationalize AI labs and put them under military control
As far as I'm aware, this was only predicted by play acting effective altruists who tend to have a histrionic outlook around further developments of large language models.
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Why assume it wouldn’t sell shares? If the state can take 5% ownership, it can sell that 5% for profit, and come back for another 5% next year. Ideally the rules on when to sell would be systematic, or made by a neutral bipartisan committee of advisors, but I suspect maybe it would be just be up to the treasury (like the crypto it now holds).
Coming back for another 5% seems unlikely. But the whole thing is unlikely and uncommon, so what's it matter?
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Why? We think the government would care about maximizing its own revenues?
That depends. Is the government staffed by people with US market investments? staffed by people with who have investments that rely on deals with OpenAI? …staffed by people who believe they have more in common with sama than you? Seems possible.