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They didnt include chatgpt in the comparison chart. That tells a lot

That is fair to point out. For those who don't know, ChatGPT Image 2 has an absurd ELO of 1387; compared to the #2 model at 1273, it's over 100 points higher ( https://arena.ai/leaderboard/text-to-image ). The tradeoff is latency, and ChatGPT Image 2 at High is...slow (~2 minutes at 1024x1024). In both cases it would have skewed the charts here to uselessness. I want to do a writeup on ChatGPT Image 2 but at this poi…

ChatGPT image is a lot more aesthetically coherent when I do a layman's test between Gemini and ChatGPT (both through their chat interface). It just breaks down in subsequent editing (around 3-4 editing prompts). That is to say Gemini also does the same, but I felt it degrades more gracefully in subsequent editing runs.

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At least from this page it looks like the images generated don't have a watermark on them. Hopefully there isn't an invisible one either.

The article says that all images have SynthID watermark which is invisible mark indicating the image was AI generated. Why would you prefer otherwise? Seems like tragedy of the commons to release flood of unmarked AI generation images, among many other risks.

Because people don't want random water marks being applied to their artwork. We've been using AI edited image and video using "filters" for years and the world hasn't ended. Time and time again these AI labs will fear monger how bad and dangerous these AI models are when in reality it is not the case and is just an excuse for them to exert power over others using their lead.

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I imagine if these cameras are adding or remove furniture, appliances or modifying flooring or the landscaping via AI it will be a problem. Edit: also if it becomes a big problem, in the future the law could be changed so that the real estate agent becomes liable to cover the cost of upgrading the property to match the altered image.

I mean it’s already fraud to do so today… you cannot misrepresent the condition of a property. I think the harm so far has just been wasted time and thus no standing for lawsuits yet.

You can stage a property with furniture. Previously that was done with rental furniture.

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I think that should be illegal and misrepresenting. Lots of gray area with AI usage.

It already is in a lot of jurisdictions for photo-shopping photos. Doctoring a photo slightly to make an area look larger, or just using a wide-angle lens though it can cause visible distortion. Removing unsightly poles, signs, trees, neighbouring properties was also common. Making the sky bluer and removing clouds is acceptable.

You can renovate your home to match an altered image, but you cant change the colour of the actual sky so in a sense that is “more false” advertising. :)

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The speed is definitely impressive. I'm seeing under 5 seconds per image vs ~30 seconds for base NB2. I built an app for my kids that generates illustrated stories for them with them as the characters. I wanted to prioritize likeness while still stylizing the illustrations. I tested a bunch of models but none seem to come close to maintaining likeness when stylized. I find the others generate generic looking characte…

I tried something like that but an error told me it couldn't do anything with children. Did that change?

Plot twist: His kids are in their forties, they just really like illustrated stories

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The first example of generating home interiors fills me with indescribable hatred. Recently real estate agents have taken to running every dilapidated unsellable apartment through these AI filters, and you have to scroll through a dozen of these Ikea-chic images of what the apartment presumably could look like, before you are allowed to see the horrors they are trying to peddle at insane prices.

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Re: Nano Banana 2 Lite

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no human wrote the prompts listed as example prompts here.

"In a breathtaking display of surreal transformation, a cinematic moment of pure action unfolds against a textured, golden-brown canvas. From the right, a woman is seen in elegant profile, her lips a startling slash of red. Her quiet composure is violently contradicted by the explosive event taking place: her dark hair is erupting, bursting forth into a chaotic flock of black birds. These creatures are captured mid-flight, a dynamic swarm launching from her mind and sweeping across the frame to the left. The motion is palpable; you can almost hear the frantic beating of a hundred wings as they break free. Some birds are still tangled, emerging from the dark mass of her hair, while others are already soaring into the open space. This is not a gentle release, but a powerful, almost violent, act of creation or liberation. The camera captures this impossible metamorphosis head-on, focusing on the sheer force of the birds' exodus. This highly sophisticated image is a kinetic masterpiece, portraying an internal storm made external, a thought process so intense it literally takes flight in a beautiful, dark, and unstoppable flurry of action."

really? anyone using for more than 10 or so tries these knows how to prompt them, and its not "The motion is palpable; you can almost hear the frantic beating of a hundred wings"

"surreal transformation, cinematic action. Textured golden-brown canvas. A woman in profile, red lips. Dark hair erupting into a flock of black birds mid-flight. Explosive metamorphosis" is pretty much all the actual meaning captured here

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post #91

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Yeah I'm kinda in the same position. I pay for both One and Workspace for myself and not sure which to use for some of this stuff. I mostly default to my personal account since it has more context, but then bringing in stuff from the Workspace Drive/etc. is an extra few steps. And some stuff like Project Genie is just flat out unavailable on Workspace which seems weird to me.

Yeah I've already got a game plan - move the email to proton & sign up for claude to replace gemini search/chat...which I do use heavily. Works out more expensive but claude pro seems to include a little coding agent usage too. Already have one of those (GLM) but a bit of anthropic allowance would be nice The problem is extracting oneself from google is non-trivial. That must be a decade of emails...

Proton has a pretty good importer for GMail/Calendar/Contacts.

The downside is that their Android calendar app is shit (a rewrite should come later this year), and Android contact syncing doesn't exist (planned for 2027). Not sure how the situation looks on iOS, but AFAIK it's similar.

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post #89

That's nice but it's on google's broken AI studio thing. I can't use half the stuff on there because it requires a Google One account. Which I'm ineligible for because I'm on a workspace account. Can I switch? No, because Google One doesn't support own domains. So I need to run (AND PAY!) two accounts to have both a nice email address and Banana? Starting to think the correct number of paid google accounts here is ze…

shameless plug burlap will let you just use keys from gemini studio or openai and try stuff out without messing with the web interfaces. that's (one reason) i made it https://www.burlap.app/download

Any plans for other platforms?

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post #99
post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I'm kinda in the same position. I pay for both One and Workspace for myself and not sure which to use for some of this stuff. I mostly default to my personal account since it has more context, but then bringing in stuff from the Workspace Drive/etc. is an extra few steps. And some stuff like Project Genie is just flat out unavailable on Workspace which seems weird to me.

Yeah I've already got a game plan - move the email to proton & sign up for claude to replace gemini search/chat...which I do use heavily. Works out more expensive but claude pro seems to include a little coding agent usage too. Already have one of those (GLM) but a bit of anthropic allowance would be nice The problem is extracting oneself from google is non-trivial. That must be a decade of emails...

I like the Migadu migration guide: install thunderbird, add both accounts, simply move the folder from one account to the other. Messy is the Google label system which tends to create dupes in thunderbird so you need to do some label cleanup first.
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