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Mark Zuckerberg directed Meta to create a prediction markets app

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg directed Meta to create a prediction markets app

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So many photos taken these days that are never going to be seen.

Whatever AI the feds buy will see them.

I feel like even that scenario is far-fetched. Was Computer cost so high any department trying to analyze data at this national scale is going to go bankrupt.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg directed Meta to create a prediction markets app

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Years ago the US government allegedly proposed prediction markets, in part to encourage the exact kinds of behavior that the US Special Forces soldier exhibited. Of course they wanted it from adversaries, not from allies.

By creating prediction markets with points rather than dollars, Meta probably avoids a lot of the legal issues current prediction markets are facing. But it also loses the one real value of prediction markets: when people put their own real money at stake, their decisions should be based more on actual knowledge and estimation than wishful thinking.

So what use is a prediction market of points for anyone?

Re: Mark Zuckerberg directed Meta to create a prediction markets app

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um, I'm not sure exactly why what motivated that comment, but its extremely possible to believe every word there from a purely logical perspective, as opposed to an emotional one. yes we shouldn't post personal attacks, but saying 'Zuckerberg got lucky' and 'seems to chase the latest "it" thing' doesn't need to qualify as a personal attack. these can just be normal observations. see I wouldn't say the same things abo…

Much of the language in the GP is pejorative, and therefore emotional, and therefore not possible to treat "from a purely logical perspective". I doubt that a purely logical evaluation is possible of any statement at all, outside of formal languages, but let's not digress. (Or maybe we should! it's at least more interesting to talk about than how $Billionaire-CEO just got lucky, lacks talent, or is a charlatan.) > I…

> Much of the language in the GP is pejorative, and therefore emotional

It was stated to be an opinion and opinions are inherently emotional, so that goes without saying, but it is a fact that the account holds that opinion and learning about that fact should spark intellectual curiosity. It is a property of the state of universe along with all the others. There is no reason to believe that intellectual curiosity is limited to only a subset of universe properties.

Perhaps what this reveals is that HN does not attract a curious audience (anymore)? Does that suggest the guidelines are not in tune with the wants and needs of the user base? Trying to force curiosity to emerge does not go far if the users aren't curious to begin with.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg directed Meta to create a prediction markets app

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post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Much of the language in the GP is pejorative, and therefore emotional, and therefore not possible to treat "from a purely logical perspective". I doubt that a purely logical evaluation is possible of any statement at all, outside of formal languages, but let's not digress. (Or maybe we should! it's at least more interesting to talk about than how $Billionaire-CEO just got lucky, lacks talent, or is a charlatan.) > I…

> Much of the language in the GP is pejorative, and therefore emotional It was stated to be an opinion and opinions are inherently emotional, so that goes without saying, but it is a fact that the account holds that opinion and learning about that fact should spark intellectual curiosity. It is a property of the state of universe along with all the others. There is no reason to believe that intellectual curiosity is…

> should spark intellectual curiosity

Maybe it should, but you don't need much experience with the internet to know that a comment like https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48648885 doesn't and won't. There's no need to look for deeper phenomena like mysterious shifts in the audience.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg directed Meta to create a prediction markets app

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post #143

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> It is a testament to their business model that it survives in spite of all this. The business model is pure moat. When the competition is bought up and new competition has it very hard to enter the market because your position is so utterly dominant, you don't need to innovate, you just milk everything you got to death, it's not like people have much of an alternative. The only threat Meta has is Tiktok, and if I w…

they got tiktok wrapped up and sold to an american consortium.

That's my point. That consortium wants to exit, and that rather sooner than later because it's highly likely that the grift is going to end with a new Democrat administration. The only ones who could serve as an exit liquidity provider are Meta.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg directed Meta to create a prediction markets app

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post #154

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> Much of the language in the GP is pejorative, and therefore emotional It was stated to be an opinion and opinions are inherently emotional, so that goes without saying, but it is a fact that the account holds that opinion and learning about that fact should spark intellectual curiosity. It is a property of the state of universe along with all the others. There is no reason to believe that intellectual curiosity is…

> should spark intellectual curiosity Maybe it should, but you don't need much experience with the internet to know that a comment like https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48648885 doesn't and won't. There's no need to look for deeper phenomena like mysterious shifts in the audience.

I suggest the proof is already to the contrary. To each their own, but I have found this to be quite intellectually gratifying. There are some compelling discussions taking place here, including but not limited to this one, that have not got caught up in indignation like originally hypothesized that they would.

The properties of the state of the universe are effectively infinite. Not all users will find curiosity in the same properties. It is understandable that you may not find the same gratification here. There is still no reason to believe that intellectual curiosity must be limited to a subset of those properties, is there?

Re: Mark Zuckerberg directed Meta to create a prediction markets app

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In what way has he claimed special expertise to deceive others for financial gain, as befitting the word charlatan? He is the CEO of Facebook and we're told to not like Facebook, but when has he claimed special expertise to deceive others for financial gain? He's one of the richest people in the world and has been using that money to do things he wants to do. I don't think he's ever claimed to eg be a PhD AI research…

Perhaps “charlatan” in the literal sense isn’t true. I was speaking more colloquial, but that was lazy of me. I will ask though, has he been honest when he’s testified before Congress? At best, I think we can say he hasn’t been very transparent many of those times. If that’s not for power and/or financial gain, what is it? [0] - [0] https://dispatch.techoversight.org/top-report-mark-zuckerber... - which was previousl…

You know how the most important skill of being a manager is to make your reports think that their ideas are their own instead of being told what to do, because it makes them more effective they want to do something rather than being told to do something? Yes, objectively, some actions Facebook has taken are bad. But I know we're not getting the whole story and someone's pushing an agenda. You're free to believe that you're forming your opinions on your own but the framing of facts does lead to seemingly obvious conclusions that aren't actually warranted when you look into the details. I am in no way saying that Facebook is good. Mark took certain actions which made people in the media have a vendetta against him, and so that's why we're hearing about them.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg directed Meta to create a prediction markets app

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The glasses, sadly, and unlike everything else, are incredibly popular and selling faster than they can make them

Unfortunately they seem to be useful, if for no other reason than parents want to take picture of their children at a moment’s notice. AFAIK this is the killer app for these glasses.

The killer apps for these glasses is creepshots, and everybody knows it. Everything else is just an insincere justification.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg directed Meta to create a prediction markets app

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Zuck simply cannot come to terms with the fact that his legacy is having built the world greatest ad platform.

Second greatest.

Yeah, the humble facebook pixel has nothing on google with everything from recaptcha to google fonts when it comes to stalking people across the net.
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