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The Ford CEO is not wrong. Allowing foreign imports into the country at prices far below what US producers are able to make will decimate the local car industry in the US. There are 4 possible solutions to this problem; a) convince Americans that it's worth paying more for a locally built product. This is the simplest approach, but there's only so much margin here that the consumer will tolerate. At the moment this g…
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> In the US, a range of 77 miles is a complete non starter. You'd have to charge it every single day. If not multiple times a day in some peoples cases. It's true that some people drive more than 77 miles per day. But a pretty big chunk of people never do, except road trips/vacations. It could easily be worth it to buy a cheap EV for everyday use and then rent a vehicle for long trips.
(2014 Leaf leaseholder here) At the time we were a 2-car household and used the gas car for longer trips. That being said, there were a few times we had to scramble: Once, when it was very cold my wife and I both needed to drive a long distance. I took the Leaf because I had access to a charger. On our last year of the lease we ended up having to move 90 miles away. When we bought the Leaf, we never planned on drivin…
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> In the US, a range of 77 miles is a complete non starter. You'd have to charge it every single day. If not multiple times a day in some peoples cases. It's true that some people drive more than 77 miles per day. But a pretty big chunk of people never do, except road trips/vacations. It could easily be worth it to buy a cheap EV for everyday use and then rent a vehicle for long trips.
Or you own more than vehicle. Plenty of families own multiple vehicles, and they don't all need to have tons of range.
I wish there still were small and very cheap EVs to fill this niche.
We had the Fiat 500e (somewhat infamous) $82 lease as an extra car because for $0 down and $82/month, why not. Range was small but it was perfect for around town, and had other cars for other things. Anytime I was driving within town I'd just take the Fiat.
The Ford CEO is not wrong. Allowing foreign imports into the country at prices far below what US producers are able to make will decimate the local car industry in the US. There are 4 possible solutions to this problem; a) convince Americans that it's worth paying more for a locally built product. This is the simplest approach, but there's only so much margin here that the consumer will tolerate. At the moment this g…
Why is decimating our local car industry a problem? Why not build something else with the resources if cars are now a cheap commodity?
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I see this take on SUVs all the time, and I can't help but think it's wrong. Americans just like bigger vehicles and will downsize if gas gets too expensive. There's a reason almost all electric car companies start off with a CUV/SUV/truck, and it's not because they're allergic to sedans or coupes.
- Tesla, the most prominent and successful EV company, didn’t start with a truck. - Neither did all the attempts at EVs from other competitors in the 2010s, like the GM Bolt/Volt or the Nissan Leaf. - But you’re not wrong, that today EV companies usually start with SUVs/CUVs, but that’s because a larger chassis makes it easier to include a large enough battery.
As soon as it was feasible, Tesla released a CUV (the Model Y) which now outsells the Model 3 almost 2-to-1. Arguably Tesla has fumbled by letting Elon pursue the Cybertruck rather than a full-sized SUV or normal pickup truck. You can observe that Rivian went after precisely those missing models.
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I think you wildly overestimate how many Americans are white-collar workers commuting 100 miles to a 6-figure job. A remotely aiming at that market to begin with.
With a range of 77 miles, I wouldn't make it to work and back. Everyone I know (yes, it's anecdotal, but a widely-shared one) has to commute on roads where the average speed is well above 30mph. This is a non-starter for the US.
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I agree with you, for the mass consumer car market (individual/family transport) as a whole. It's coming fast. However, the current EV technology (mostly batteries + charging) is not a good fit for a whole lot of edge cases, and in the aggregate they matter, too, and thus the ICE engine industry won't really go away anytime soon: * General-purpose Semis for commercial hauling. Yes, there's some EV Semis on the road t…
Look, sure. No one is saying "no ICE ever". Some people still ride horses. 125 years ago cities were built around horses. Stabling. Breeding. Feeding. Grooming. Street cleaning (turns our horses poop a Lot). By 20 years later that's all gone . Sure horses survived in rural areas. Sure the Amish use them today as then. But the horse-based industry has (in real terms) vanished. ICE is headed the same way. It will exist…
My first thought when looking at it is that I doubt the vehicle could pass US safety regulations. Maybe I'm wrong.
https://insideevs.com/news/401218/citroen-ami-deliveries-jun...
> It remains to be seen whether the Olinia One will face similar pushback from the U.S. once it goes on sale. > can travel up to 125 kilometers (77 miles) on a single charge The US market generally rejects small-range EVs, except in very niche markets. In order to succeed in the US, it will need roughly 3-4x the range. In order for this to succeed in Mexico, their market will need different driving habits than the ty…
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Would have to be very affordable. Like well under $10K. Otherwise I'll just buy a used ICE vehicle and have a lot more flexibility in how I use it.
Even Cargo Bicycles cost more than $10k. I think a 6 seater people mover is worth far more than those. I'd buy a 6 seater with this range but not with the speed limitations (I think it is like 50-60 kph which is a non starter)
Like really really easy.
Apologies if I missed your point.