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The Wholesale Plagiarism of Obscure Sorrows

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Re: The Wholesale Plagiarism of Obscure Sorrows

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Post by phkahler »

bonoboTP wrote: post #137
mcoliver wrote: post #54

A similar thing is happening to me. I worked on something for 3 years which I give away for free to help people and a thief took my software, ran it through ai to rebrand everything and relaunched as their own app. Unfortunately the ai missed a few Easter eggs I had hidden so the theft is undeniable. Google and Apple are useless for dmca unless you have a court order. They refuse to look at or arbitrate. So now I'm o…

If you released it under a free software license, then all they seem to have not done properly is putting an attribution text in their software. But you did not specify what license you used which already makes me doubt if you have the correct mental model around free software and it's ethos. Who makes money on what is not the main concern in free software ideology. It's a side question. It's the four freedoms that a…

"Gave away for free" does not mean they did so under a Free Software license. One could just put a copyright notice with NO license and they'd be in violation of the copyright.

Re: The Wholesale Plagiarism of Obscure Sorrows

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Post by forgetfreeman »

fsckboy wrote: post #148
rustcleaner wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why awards need to be based on % of total assets or revenue of the defendant. If little guy beats the big guy defendant, little guy should walk away with millions or billions. If big guy wins against the little guy defendant, it's just hundreds or thousands. It makes relatively poor individuals who can't afford a team of effective lawyers lawsuit proof, while making those who can wage effective lawfare juicy…

> This is why awards need to be based on % of total assets or revenue of the defendant. yes! and we need to add the death penalty to the list of punishments for children, because what matters is not the size of the crime, but the harshness of enforcement, that's the real deterrent, arewerite!?

Ridiculous. The initial proposal was to improve proportionality, what are you on about here?

Re: The Wholesale Plagiarism of Obscure Sorrows

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Post by waxpancake »

marshray wrote: post #144
waxpancake wrote: post #138

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It's not an advertisement for Claude. It's a screenshot from the relevant part of Qontour's website that I was referring to in my post.

Lol! This is why they told us to properly label and provide attribution for every image :-D

I certainly don't want to confuse anyone, so I added captions to every image (and alt-text, while I was at it). Thanks for the heads-up.

Re: The Wholesale Plagiarism of Obscure Sorrows

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Post by Tanoc »

fantasizr wrote: post #112
saghm wrote: post #67

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> Google and Apple are useless for dmca unless you have a court order. This is especially egregious in Google's case given how trigger happy they are with pulling YouTube videos with a simple claim that something is infringing. I guess unless you can lobby them at the level of the music industry, their default policy is to do nothing.

reminds me of this woman who had copyright filed against her for playing moonlight sonata. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27004577 if not for the complete hassle and threat to her livelihood, it might be laughable.

There's been a plague recently of people taking videogame songs from classic games and rapping over them, putting them on Soundcloud or other services, and then automating the copyright process. So people who are playing through Donkey Kong Country or Dynamite Heddy are getting videos copyright claimed by someone who likely wasn't even born when the games came out and has no legal right to.

Re: The Wholesale Plagiarism of Obscure Sorrows

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Post by marshray »

scotty79 wrote: post #133
12_throw_away wrote: post #79

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> liked the idea of the book and used the bulk of its text as lorem ipsum in a demo I'm sorry, what? What exactly do you think is happening here?

You tell me: https://webflow.com/@qontour?msockid=0946eab0f6bf6a55192dfcc... If that doesn't look like a marooned freelancer down on their luck I don't what does. I mean, what's your read on this? Is this a person who secretly hates the book and the author and re-published its contents because he knows that people who have the content will never, ever purchase a book, no matter how much they like it? And he provides…

We're discussing a blog post about a blatantly plagiarized website, and the ethical environment and professional choices that led to its creation and continued existence. We get to do that.

This isn't Reddit and we aren't "the internet". We aren't brigading and organizing harassment or whatever here.

That is why the particulars of the web designer's personal life and state of mind are mostly uninteresting.

Re: The Wholesale Plagiarism of Obscure Sorrows

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Post by palmotea »

> Nearly every day, I get emailed a newly-launched, obviously-vibecoded website filled with AI-generated content that was designed to siphon attention away from human creators: bloggers, authors, journalists, artists, musicians, and anyone else who slowly, painstakingly makes things for a living. I’m not even sure anymore that the emails I’m receiving are sent by a human.

We did it guys! This and the recent NYT article about the deepfake expert who can no longer trust his eyes when analyzing deepfakes, makes me hopeful that Silicon Valley will finally realize its dream of destroying human society.

Re: The Wholesale Plagiarism of Obscure Sorrows

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Post by scotty79 »

marshray wrote: post #146
scotty79 wrote: post #132

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> What is your basis for this belief? My experience inflicted stupidity. > Did you read the part about the obviously intentionally-added affiliate links to the original book? I find it nice that they linked to the original book. For every x earned let the original author earn many times more. It's probably a better deal than the author got from their legal publisher. > Did you read the part about the fake site appear…

> My experience inflicted stupidity. We've all been there. > I find it nice that they linked to the original book. For every x earned let the original author earn many times more. > It's probably a better deal than the author got from their legal publisher. These two statements sound contradictory to me. > And who's fault is that? Google? Or this little slop maker that I'm (again stupidly) assuming is not a SEO hacke…

> These two statements sound contradictory to me.

How so?

Re: The Wholesale Plagiarism of Obscure Sorrows

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Post by scotty79 »

marshray wrote: post #155
scotty79 wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You tell me: https://webflow.com/@qontour?msockid=0946eab0f6bf6a55192dfcc... If that doesn't look like a marooned freelancer down on their luck I don't what does. I mean, what's your read on this? Is this a person who secretly hates the book and the author and re-published its contents because he knows that people who have the content will never, ever purchase a book, no matter how much they like it? And he provides…

We're discussing a blog post about a blatantly plagiarized website, and the ethical environment and professional choices that led to its creation and continued existence. We get to do that. This isn't Reddit and we aren't "the internet". We aren't brigading and organizing harassment or whatever here. That is why the particulars of the web designer's personal life and state of mind are mostly uninteresting.

> We get to do that.

We get to discuss anything that doesn't get moderated.

> This isn't Reddit and we aren't "the internet".

It's a reddit for techno snobs and we are the internet as much as any other part of the internet.

> That is why the particulars of the web designer's personal life and state of mind are mostly uninteresting.

Depends on the perspective. IP law and it's fake aspirations for a morality that's voluntarily mob supported by a small but very vocal group of people is what's interesting for me. And who's being ground by it also kind of matters more than what imagined offences agains the letter of the "law" they commited to trigger that.

Re: The Wholesale Plagiarism of Obscure Sorrows

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Post by danaris »

rustcleaner wrote: post #113
dylan604 wrote: post #71

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Let's consider an independent dev making claims vs the army of lawyers from RIAA/MPAA type claimants. Which one do you think evilCorps will pay attention to?

This is why awards need to be based on % of total assets or revenue of the defendant. If little guy beats the big guy defendant, little guy should walk away with millions or billions. If big guy wins against the little guy defendant, it's just hundreds or thousands. It makes relatively poor individuals who can't afford a team of effective lawyers lawsuit proof, while making those who can wage effective lawfare juicy…

Sadly, I fear that even if we were to do something like that, any time a company is sued for infringement they'd find a way to ensure that the entity being sued just doesn't have any assets, sorry, you'll just have to be content with knowing you won.

Re: The Wholesale Plagiarism of Obscure Sorrows

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Post by shimman »

DrewADesign wrote: post #61
shimman wrote: post #26

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Why aren't they suing Google in court? Now is the best time to do this politically, the site doesn't mention what state they live in but I'd doubt that you wouldn't be able to get a state AG to listen to you if you reached out. edit to add: Google has ignored all safe harbor protections, they would lose this protection and be held liable for all damages. This seems like a pretty solid win for the author here if they'…

There are a lot of really solid reasons someone might choose not to sue one of the world’s most powerful corporations over their core business practices, even being completely in the right. Pretty similar to reasons someone might not call the cops on some mafiosos that are blocking your driveway while fencing a truckload of stolen electronics.

I disagree, state AGs are taking any opportunity to attack big tech for easy political points. If you want justice, now is the best time to try and get it.
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