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Currently lot of mainstream political speech is literally things the nazis said
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Give an example?
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I would absolutely draw a distinction between government enforced censorship and private platforms censoring content. Where it becomes a larger problem is if the private platform is an effective monopoly; using monopoly power to censor viewpoints would be a bad. Normally we would call a monopoly platform a common carrier and outlaw censorship by them.
> I would absolutely draw a distinction between government enforced censorship and private platforms censoring content. I would absolutely not.
So... If I run a bbs, I can't delete spam or porn, or kick people off my platform? That's an infringement of free speech?
Or say I run a newspaper, I have to print every editorial letter somebody sends in? I can't pick and choose?
Do I as the platform owner lose my free speech?
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Meh. There is no communist or socialist leadership in any state. Socialism died in the US when socialists stopped bombing universities and kidnapping heiresses and ceased being an actual threat to power. Now they just exist as an ineffectual and endless purity spiral of shitposting and theory on social media. Even Mamdani is at best a European style Democratic Socialist, which is still capitalist and nationalist in a…
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#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
Meh. There is no communist or socialist leadership in any state. Socialism died in the US when socialists stopped bombing universities and kidnapping heiresses and ceased being an actual threat to power. Now they just exist as an ineffectual and endless purity spiral of shitposting and theory on social media. Even Mamdani is at best a European style Democratic Socialist, which is still capitalist and nationalist in a…
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Antisemitism isn't an indicator of communist or socialist sympathies.
As for the rest of your comment, you seem to be hiding a lack of substance behind an attempt at obscurant bullshit. Who are you talking about? What are you talking about? Your account is getting banned sooner or later judging from your posting history, just come out with it.
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#155Earlier quoted context omitted.
Meh. There is no communist or socialist leadership in any state. Socialism died in the US when socialists stopped bombing universities and kidnapping heiresses and ceased being an actual threat to power. Now they just exist as an ineffectual and endless purity spiral of shitposting and theory on social media. Even Mamdani is at best a European style Democratic Socialist, which is still capitalist and nationalist in a…
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#156I think "government pressure" needs to be defined. If vaccination misinformation is spreading like wildfire on social media, and measles and other deadly diseases are getting out of control, and the government urges social media to control the spread of misinformation, is that "government pressure" and should it be illegal? Now you can argue that the right way to counter misinformation is by countering it with legit…
>the government urges social media to control the spread of misinformation There's always an implied or else . Stop harming the public, because the government is obligated to stop harms to the public and if they have to step in, it won't be favorable to your company.
or else in this case is that people die
why would the government need some other stick?
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> But everyone here loves jawboning and agrees the government should suppress speech. That sure is quite an assumption you're making. Governments should have zero control over speech and zero ability to impose consequences on speech. Individuals and most groups should have absolute freedom of association, which is precisely what they're exercising when choosing not to associate with some speech and some speakers
> Governments should have zero control over speech and zero ability to impose consequences on speech... Perhaps you are an "absolute" free speech absolutist, but does that include: - Swatting? - Doxxing? - Yelling "Fire!" in the proverbial crowded theater? - Liable and Slander? - Spreading nude pictures (real or faked) or personal medical information without consent? - Threatening (relatively) defenseless individuals…
the problem with swatting is that the police are too armed and do no investigation when instead they can destroy stuff and kill people
its just fine to call the cops. its not ok for the government to act on it thoughtlessly.
if people had yelled fire in that swiss club, maybe more people would have survived the fire?
why shouldnt i be able to put on an elvis costume and a bad accent?
The things you are listing really arent a big deal, and to be bad, have to include something more than just speech, eg. commerce
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#158I'm surprised to see Ted Cruz co-sponsoring this bill given Trump's proclivity to pressure TV networks into silencing and/or firing hosts.
Cruz was also an outspoken critic of the FCC pressuring/threatening late night shows.
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Meh. There is no communist or socialist leadership in any state. Socialism died in the US when socialists stopped bombing universities and kidnapping heiresses and ceased being an actual threat to power. Now they just exist as an ineffectual and endless purity spiral of shitposting and theory on social media. Even Mamdani is at best a European style Democratic Socialist, which is still capitalist and nationalist in a…
European style Democratic Socialist maybe is pretty great then?