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Why are so many young people getting cancer?

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Re: Why are so many young people getting cancer?

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post #73

My wild guess before reading the article: unhealthy food. A big part of which is herbicides and pesticides. I will now read the article.

If anything, food supply in the past 20 years uses a lot less pesticides and herbicides: look at the rise of organic sections in any supermarket. Since 2000 organic food went from niche to mainstream.

Organic farming still uses pesticides.

See https://www.epa.gov/agriculture/organic-farming - "Pesticides derived from natural sources (such as biological pesticides) may be used in producing organically grown food"

Re: Why are so many young people getting cancer?

#153

for millions of years we were constantly fasting, then we hunted and killed animals, eating their protein and fat, no carbs, we were constantly in ketosis We recently begun eating carbs, And very very recently started eating tons of processed carbs (because now we got the tech) We are rarely in ketosis, and because of high carbs/sugar consumption, we start developing insulin resistance. (the idea is simple, we create…

"for millions of years we were constantly fasting, then we hunted and killed animals, eating their protein and fat, no carbs, we were constantly in ketosis"

Those hunter-gatherers of the past certainly did eat whatever carbs they could find - wild roots, tubers etc. Gathering plant-based food was easier than hunting. Most Westerners today eat way too much meat, so I wouldn't recommend replacing carbs with that.

Re: Why are so many young people getting cancer?

#154

What I find interesting is the concept of dead food versus live food. This is just something I wonder about. For example a dead apple is one that was picked a year ago, sold today, kept in storage until now. Long shelf life - is the crucial change in our eating that I can see. When was the last time you had a fresh apple? Does the food industry want us to consider the health benefits of a dead apple versus a living a…

> This is just something I wonder about. For example a dead apple is one that was picked a year ago, sold today, kept in storage until now.

This isn't new: One of the early (pre-US) exports of the colonial US was apples back to Europe. They store and ship well.

Re: Why are so many young people getting cancer?

#155

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> Obesity. Being overweight is directly correlated with an increased risk for over a dozen cancers. And people are fatter than ever.

Doesn't that just move the question to: why are so many people obese now? Including more obese younger people.

Re: Why are so many young people getting cancer?

#156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is simply not true. A calorie is a calorie might be true, and its hard to know which is healthier for any single fresh vs storage example but plenty of chemical processes are going on. It could certainly be the case that a small number of storage examples where particular changes occur cause particular risks that account for a significant portion of cancer.

Stored apples are not causing cancer.

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Re: Why are so many young people getting cancer?

#157

If I had to bet, it would be on HPV causing a majority of the rise in colorectal cancer. It is a major cause of throat cancer in men[0] and causes almost 100% of cervical cancer in women[1]. We have had a significant increase in anal sex over the past 10+ years[2] and are now seeing an increase in colorectal cancer. "Britain has found that the proportion of 16- to 24-year-olds engaging in heterosexual anal intercours…

Kinda surprised at the idea that HPV is the cause; at least in the US, there was a fairly large push about 15 years ago to get more people (particularly teenage girls and young women) vaccinated against HPV. Would we not see a corresponding dip in deaths related to HPV-associated cancers by now?

Several things at play here:

1. As others have mentioned, males were excluded from vaccination until relatively recently. This seems like such a stupid decision in hindsight. When I (male) got my vaccines, I was told that it wasn't routinely done in boys "because of availability issues", which I took to mean "because it's expensive".

2. Initial vaccines offered protection against 4 strains of HPV, newer vaccines protect against 9. People who got the older vaccines remain susceptible to the other 5 strains.

3. It can take years for an HPV infection to become dangerous or cancerous.

4. This last one is speculative, but I assume that when a woman tests positive for HPV or cervical cancer, their partner is also looked at. With the rates of symptoms and cancers going down in woman, their partners might fall through the gaps: there are no routine tests for males.

Re: Why are so many young people getting cancer?

#159
post #26

Some experts weigh in: https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/subcommittees/investigations/he...

The need to tap a bunch of discredited UK "scientists" to get the anti-mRNA perspective on the testimonies, should perhaps be an indicator that this viewpoint is not really credible (they couldn't find enough reputable doctors inside of the US willing to testify the same thing).

Incidentally here's a really nicely written counter to many of the claims Malhotra has made:

> Equally, evidence that mRNA vaccines cause cancer is simply untrue. This sentence, for example “The millions of molecules of mRNA entering the cell is creating biochemical havoc, is disrupting protein metabolism, is interfering with tumour suppressor genes” is meaningless pseudoscience. There is no credible evidence that these vaccines disrupt tumour suppressors or drive any kind of process (biochemical or otherwise) that results in cancer. It is particularly crass to try to link this pseudoscience to the unfortunate incidents of cancer in the royal family and is reminiscent of the ‘died suddenly’ trope which attempted (and ultimately failed) to link the death of any young person to their vaccination status. This kind of outlandish conspiracy theory only serves to undermine the credibility of those spreading it.

https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-claims...

(the sentences being cited are from a different source but it's the same kind of story he tells in this testimony)

Re: Why are so many young people getting cancer?

#160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why did you write it as "1969ties"?

Not the commenter, but the same tobacco companies came up with many of the highly processed foods

The scientists they paid off are the ones deciding if food additives are safe too https://www.yahoo.com/news/food-safety-scientists-ties-big-0...
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