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Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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Post by knollimar »

vel0city wrote: post #140
knollimar wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Id rather the people being irresponsible with their files lose them than me randomly. My IT even set up my downloads folder to sync... my job involves downloading 4gb files and throwing them away after I run a script on them frequently...

That sounds more like an issue with your relationship with your IT guy than OneDrive as a product. Not necessarily blaming you for the relationship fault, but someone forcing using the software improperly isn't really a failure of the software.

The second part is, yeah. I'm more annoyed with the whole concept and was using that as evidence of its reliability, and also about how we're willing to sacrifice time without thinking about tradesoffs when it comes to "more onedrive backup better"

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Post by soundnote »

elzbardico wrote: post #102
Scroll_Swe wrote: post #50

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And as someone who worked and still works in IT support, users will not save to network drives, their machine will crash and files will be lost. YES, you can do GPO redirect desktop etc to network drive but needs a VPN and sync is also slow. OneDrive has solved this, like it or not. >So when I'm on site somewhere, and have no access to a network that's safe, I can't access files that are in my documents folder, pictu…

Cloud document best use case is document sharing for online collaboration, backup is a side effect, and frankly, as backup solution it is far from ideal. Frankly, the best configuration is NOT installing OneDrive on user machines, actually disallow users to install it and let them share files from office 365 itself when they actually want to share those files. And then, have a proper network backup solution. Make

Also just having your stuff available on multiple devices, having it be easy to move devices, etc.

All that said, I don't like the deep desktop-OneDrive type integration, very much a clear, separate sync folders type person, even if I store a bunch of my stuff inside said folder. But Sync Service Kingdoms are to be very clear, it's the one way they will be ~99% benefit, 1% headache.

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Post by alsetmusic »

bilekas wrote: post #18

One drive is an insanely poorly implemented solution to a problem nobody really had. For enterprise companies, ones I've worked in at least, they will auto sync the users folder /c/Users/(name) with one drive, but there is some weird alternative they have to set on the windows system to actually use a workspace for the user. So when I'm on site somewhere, and have no access to a network that's safe, I can't access fi…

> solution to a problem nobody really had.

It's honestly been great for my org. We used to have custom user-specific shared drives on the network. Laptop replacements were constantly hindered by people not understanding how to transfer data. Since we rolled out OD (not my decision by a mile), that's been consistently easy.

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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Post by domysee »

bayindirh wrote: post #127
rcxdude wrote: post #87

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It is irritating how Microsoft markets onedrive as a backup solution, because then people think 'oh, we have onedrive, why do we need another backup solution?', when onedrive is so unsuited to being the working copy of so many different kinds of data.

The problem is, even though one knows that OneDrive is not a viable backup solution, Microsoft crippled its own "Windows Backup" feature and buried under the rock. Now I have to pay another company to be able to have a proper backup solution. Why trash your own competent solution for monies and data extraction? It's not a wise move.

There are actually really good free backup solutions, like https://kopia.io/ Tried a couple of paid ones first because I didn't know about them, but this is even better

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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Post by domysee »

Besides the OneDrive hate here, this doesn't seem that newsworthy? It reads like the storage of users that have their license revoked will be deleted. Which is how I'd expect the service to work. If anything, it's weird that their files were kept.

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Post by bayindirh »

domysee wrote: post #155
bayindirh wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is, even though one knows that OneDrive is not a viable backup solution, Microsoft crippled its own "Windows Backup" feature and buried under the rock. Now I have to pay another company to be able to have a proper backup solution. Why trash your own competent solution for monies and data extraction? It's not a wise move.

There are actually really good free backup solutions, like https://kopia.io/ Tried a couple of paid ones first because I didn't know about them, but this is even better

Thanks, looks interesting. For my personal Linux systems, I use backintime and pay for Acronis for my parents' Windows system right now (since it can also image disks and whatnot), but I'll keep this in mind, too.

Thanks again.

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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Post by Fizz43 »

bad_username wrote: post #136
Fizz43 wrote: post #74

In an enterprise environment onedrive is perfectly fine. Yet so many developers think they're to good for it. They save their things outside of onedrive and low and behold they lose data. Its so dumb and im yet to hear a good reason why they couldnt have used onedrive.

I am on an enterprise environment. I had non stop issues with OneDrive, such as OneDrive process always pegged at 100% CPU, files not synching, files going cloud-only and inaccessible without Internet, and issues in git repos. I go out of my way to avoid OneDrive at any cost, including the cost of using a separate backup system for my files.

dont look at CPU in windows. There is always something cranking it to 100% thats just how windows 11 is.

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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Post by hsbauauvhabzb »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #135
hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #131

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I can’t see any suggestion that accounts already 12 months since they were deactivated won’t be nuked in July. You’re potentially getting a months notice in the short term.

Looking into the actual announcements, they're not 100% clear but I'd be shocked if they skipped the archival period for old accounts. But also they originally announced this a long time ago and the official page says they've been rolling it out since January last year.

I wouldn’t want to gamble on that assumption.

Re: OneDrive data now has an expiry date

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Post by quietbritishjim »

hparadiz wrote: post #125
quietbritishjim wrote: post #110

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What system would still be storing this locally long after the user has left the company? The second half of your comment is bordering on a personal attack and not very helpful.

You are the example I was pointing out. At no point did I say anything about a company account. This happens on all windows machines. You can for example login to a machine acting as a server simply to use the Microsoft store to install something only to have it start syncing your files to that machine or even intermingle them and then force you to go through a tedious clean up process. I have seen grandparents accid…

That sounds awful and it's indefensible.

But it's not the subject of this article. Making this particular change sound like a problem, when it isn't (as far as I can tell), only makes it harder to understand where there are genuine issues.

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