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Well - yes - we're on the internet. You always have a choice to run your software in foreign countries. But it's still erroneous to claim that it isn't a choice.
The most popular frontier models are not open weight.
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Oh sure, no one said you can't train a model to do this. You certainly can. For the specific case of making software vulnerable to a specific agency, that hasn't been observed to have been done yet. Not because it can't be, but because no one has for now. If it were done, it would be easy(ish) to detect, since it'll be reproducible.
> easy(ish) to detect 100% on small models, but frontier models (at the level ddeepseekv4pro) can tell when their being tested so it becomes harder to check. you can always finetune them to remove CCP propaganda from them
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The most popular frontier models are not open weight.
The model we're discussing (Deepseek) is open weight.
But also, the latest DeepSeek is 1.6T parameters. “Choosing” to run this locally is a choice that comes with a seven digit price tag, and is a sunk cost that will probably not run any other frontier model anytime soon.
Most organizations are not looking to spend millions of dollars trying to find a workaround to specifically run DeepSeek. Most enterprise consumption in this space is still very experimental and a pay as you go model is much more palatable. Most are simply just looking for three checkboxes: is it close to frontier performance, is it compliant with my organizations requirements, and is it a good price? DeepSeek can only do two of the three at the same time.
I don't get the point. That Anthropic or OpenAI have more expensive products than Alibaba? So does Apple, AWS/GCP, and pretty much any other large western company vs its Chinese counterparts.
It's a ludicrous amount of words to say "I use the cheap models and that makes me very smart."
How many words did I read in this article before I realized it wasn't written by AI? 10? 20? A paragraph or two? It's quite strange that it's very easy to detect AI in writing.
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If you think american models aren't phoning home and don't have backdoor capabillities, you're naive. With all the sloppers not looking at the code this is bliss for that sort of things
We’ve detected zero cases of any Chinese models doing this. I’m quite tired of the American propaganda. If only Americans understood China really does not care about them outside of wanting to sell them things. They’re too busy building high speed rails, modern cities, and providing healthcare to their citizens. I am ashamed to be an American these days.
I'm a cynic, if history has taught me anything is that none of these countries are to be trusted with tools like these.
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It's a ludicrous amount of words to say "I use the cheap models and that makes me very smart."
I honestly could not follow any discernible point or thrust to this incoherent, disorganized, self-indulgent piece-of-shit post. He didn't even successfully establish or explain the titular Onlyfans analogy. I know more about his fucking taste for sci fi than I do about the ostensible subject matter. I know more about his physical composition (answer: he is made of metal. He was forged in the fires of science. O glor…
How many words did I read in this article before I realized it wasn't written by AI? 10? 20? A paragraph or two? It's quite strange that it's very easy to detect AI in writing.
For me it’s easily the — character. Like no human would use that since it’s not in any standard keyboard
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The model we're discussing (Deepseek) is open weight.
Perhaps your prior comment would’ve been better received if it said that specifically instead of “Chinese models”. But also, the latest DeepSeek is 1.6T parameters. “Choosing” to run this locally is a choice that comes with a seven digit price tag, and is a sunk cost that will probably not run any other frontier model anytime soon. Most organizations are not looking to spend millions of dollars trying to find a worka…
I can see now why I was being downvoted - you have explained it eloquently.
(Your cost analysis is flawed and irrelevant. Azure serves V4 Pro.)