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Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

#151
I can appreciate LLMs for some use cases, but writing emails for the user is the one that really baffles me.

It's one thing if you don't speak English well and could use some help making yourself understood, but the amount of native speakers using this is so strange to me. How does this help you? If you can write to the LLM telling it what kind of email to write, you might as well just write the email.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

#152
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple is not the answer. If you want to escape AI, you need a modular Linux distro like Arch or Debian on your computer, and GrapheneOS on your phone.

It's not a question of escaping AI. It's a question of whether it's integrated in such a way that it works for you, or against you. The blog post sounds like Google is actively making AI work against their users.

> It's a question of whether it's integrated in such a way that it works for you, or against you.

Google, Apple, and Microsoft won't give you such control. It's going to be AI on terms terms and for their own benefit.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

#153
I don’t understand. Do the people generating ‘content’ with LLMs themselves enjoy pissing away their own time ingesting the output they’re asking an LLM to produce?

For all the amazing creative work carefully (or not) crafted by humans directly, you’d rather have the derived token sausage?

Writing with intent to deceive a human, and otherwise generating ‘art’ with models is the laziest application thereof, and I’d argue it’s unethical. If you generate something and present it to me as your own work, worthy of direct human consumption and thus, my finite human heartbeats, I instantly have a problem with you.

Email in perfuckingticular: if your actual reply is “yep, meet you there!” And you ask the LLM to expand it and bloat it in some way, what’s the justification?

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

#154
post #59

I just can't stand how Gmail is putting a red line under every other sentence that I write (telling me that my writing style is a "mistake") and aggressively nudging me to rewrite it to make it sound more like AI. Whoever thought such a product would be a good idea should be fired.

Out of interest - do you trust google reading all your emails? What do you think about privacy?

95% of the people I interact with over email are on Gmail (or Outlook). Google/Microsoft still have those emails either way, even if I switch off.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

#155

Very happy to have mostly de-Googled, I don't miss the AI-forward product decisions. I only use Google now for occasional searches and interacting with other Google users (e.g. Docs).

agents + EXA has replaced almost all of my search now, except when I muscle memory it

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#156

> This time I’m doing things the right way by connecting my own domain to a mail host. I’m currently with Fastmail since they were by far the most popular option when I asked for suggestions on the fediverse. Question for the general public: why Fastmail over Proton?

Comparing a few based on cheapest annual plan that includes custom email domains:

mailbox.org € 30.00 / $34.71

10GB+5GB storage, ample aliases, multiple domains, up to 10 family accounts

proton.me € 41.04 / $47.88

15GB storage, 1 account, 10 encrypted email addresses, 1 domain

fastmail.com € 51.44 / $60.00

60 GB storage, 1 account, multiple domains

For more accounts/users (e.g. Proton Unlimited or Fastmail Family), the pricing is reasonable. But mailbox.org certainly looks like the best value at first glance unless you need a lot of storage. If you've got 6 users and/or several domains, FastMail does look pretty nice.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

#157

Related to this, I hate how aggressively Google pushes Gemini and all of the privacy implications involved with that. 1) Lots of features got moved around and there are now many "Write with AI", "Generate image with AI", etc buttons polluting user interfaces even though I don't use them and don't want to use them. 2) Actually, I would use some of these features if I didn't have to do a full opt-in to Smart Features f…

It's the same on phones. You can't use Gemini as your default smart assitant without it also then becoming your default smart assistant for Android Auto, where it is useless. It will happily find you some restaurant reviews for a town you are going to, but useful stuff like "Send a whatsapp to Jane Smith saying I will be 10 minutes late." or "Play XXX from Spotify" it totally fails at.

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Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

#158
post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I chose typing every time.

And I chose to set a browser bookmark with the corresponding GET parameters.

And you guys think that by typing or using bookmark with the same address didn't figure out it's your home address? :)

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

#159
post #4

I really hope Apple watches what Google and Microsoft are doing with AI, specifically shoving it into their customers' workflow without invitation, and steers far away from that path.

Given that Apple recently started putting ads in Maps, I have no faith in them anymore.

I was a littLe annoyed by that, too, but mostly because there isn't an option to pay for an ad-free experience.
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