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Adafruit receives demand letter from Fenwick legal counsel on behalf of Flux.ai

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What would be a better way to incorporate AI as a spell checker? In comparison to non-AI traditional tools, AI has the advantage of "understanding" the text, reducing the number of "stupid" mis-corrections. And its spelling correctness is usually already impeccable, so what is there to gain by interfacing it with traditional solutions, and how can it be achieved?

AI can’t really spell check without risking changing the meaning of sentences. Spell checking was a solved problem before this.

Strong disagree. One of the core strengths of LLMs from the beginning is that they are very good at NOT changing meaning, as long as your model isn't so small that it starts to get "dumb" and as long as your input fits in the context window. (Two known limitations that aren't always exposed to the end user in poorly-written applications.)

Of course, LLMs are non-deterministic and do occasionally make mistakes, so you have to use them correctly and review their output. You shouldn't paste a doc into the web UI and tell it "fix all the mistakes and write the output to a new file." You should instead have it present each mistake and fix to the user as a diff and let the user approve or deny, either within the application or allowing the user to make their own edits. Never let it "rewrite" the whole document, that's the document-editing equivalent of giving OpenClaw root on your personal computer. Nothing good will come of it.

Classic spell checkers can't detect homophones. E.g. "there" and "their." Grammar checkers can, but at least the ones that I have used also like to change the tone of my writing to sterile corporate PC speak. LLMs used for grammar checking have not, in my experience, meddled with my tone. (Although sometimes they try to admonish me for it!)

Re: Adafruit receives demand letter from Fenwick legal counsel on behalf of Flux.ai

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Also not related to https://fluxkeyboard.com/

Nor f.lux, the warm light software that got Sherlocked by every major OS. https://justgetflux.com/

Man that’s a blast from the past; used to be one of my fav apps.

Re: Adafruit receives demand letter from Fenwick legal counsel on behalf of Flux.ai

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Looks like Flux.ai got some publicity out of this. Maybe not the kind they wanted - after reading this thread, I'll sure never give them a dime.

Yea I had no idea this product exists but it seems to be pretty horrible from the experiences shared in this thread

Re: Adafruit receives demand letter from Fenwick legal counsel on behalf of Flux.ai

#154

> Adafruit accessed only information that Flux’s own systems made publicly available through a server misconfiguration Does anyone have some more context about what happened here? An uncharitable analogy might be that I misconfigured my front door by not locking it, which doesn't give someone the right to walk in and look around - but I have no idea what Adafruit is specifically being accused of doing.

what about if I knock on the door (send an http request), and someone comes to it and hands me a bunch of documents (sends an http response with data).

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Re: Adafruit receives demand letter from Fenwick legal counsel on behalf of Flux.ai

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Also not related to https://fluxkeyboard.com/

Nor f.lux, the warm light software that got Sherlocked by every major OS. https://justgetflux.com/

Nor the continuous delivery K8s tool. https://fluxcd.io/

Re: Adafruit receives demand letter from Fenwick legal counsel on behalf of Flux.ai

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AI can’t really spell check without risking changing the meaning of sentences. Spell checking was a solved problem before this.

Strong disagree. One of the core strengths of LLMs from the beginning is that they are very good at NOT changing meaning, as long as your model isn't so small that it starts to get "dumb" and as long as your input fits in the context window. (Two known limitations that aren't always exposed to the end user in poorly-written applications.) Of course, LLMs are non-deterministic and do occasionally make mistakes, so you…

> Grammar checkers can, but at least the ones that I have used also like to change the tone of my writing to sterile corporate PC speak.

Most grammar checker packages also include style checking, and the default options tend toward that style (because that’s the big market for them.) Most of them are also configurable, so you can disable style checking entirely while still checking grammar, or tweak which style rules are applied.

Re: Adafruit receives demand letter from Fenwick legal counsel on behalf of Flux.ai

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Nor the Flux Capacitor from Back to the Future.

Nor the famed Good Will Hunting and Argo actor and director, Ben Afflux

Nor the Cartoon Network show (and later movie) Aeon Flux.

Re: Adafruit receives demand letter from Fenwick legal counsel on behalf of Flux.ai

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What's the context here?

It seems there's suspiciously little context available, yet here I also am commenting on a 'vaguepost'. I wonder if one day AI will be able to filter out vagueposts from my browser along with ragebait and curiosity gap headlines.

Idk now that there are bunch of comments on the thread it’s vastly more interesting.

Re: Adafruit receives demand letter from Fenwick legal counsel on behalf of Flux.ai

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It's not clear whether using "grate" instead of "great" is a grammar mistake or a spelling mistake. I'd argue it's a spelling mistake. The intent was not "my spell checker works a frame of metal bars," it was "my spell checker works well." It just so happens that the misspelled word matches a different word. An example of a sentence like this with correct spelling but bad grammar would be "my spell checker works good…

> It's not clear whether using "grate" instead of "great" is a grammar mistake or a spelling mistake. It actually is clear, because words have meaning. "Spelling" refers specifically to the order of letters forming a given word [0, 1]. The proper use of words with a sentence, the "the study of the classes of words, their inflections, and their functions and relations in the sentence" [2] is the definition of "grammar…

> "Spelling" refers specifically to the order of letters forming a given word

Right. And "the given word" in that particular example means "well" and is spelled G R E A T. G R A T E is a misspelling of that word.

Your position doesn't make any sense when you boil it down. I write some word as some sequence of letters. Whether it's correctly spelled depends not only on how that word is spelled, but how all other words, completely unrelated, are also spelled?

Let's say someone meant to write "bite" but wrote "byte" back in 1950. That's a misspelling. Did it retroactively become a grammar error when the word "byte" was coined in 1956? Or does the word have to exist at the time of writing for it to be a grammar error instead of a spelling error?

It's a lot more consistent if you consider the spelling relative to the word that's supposed to be there and accept that computer spell checkers miss the case where a misspelling happens to match a different word.

Re: Adafruit receives demand letter from Fenwick legal counsel on behalf of Flux.ai

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> Adafruit accessed only information that Flux’s own systems made publicly available through a server misconfiguration Does anyone have some more context about what happened here? An uncharitable analogy might be that I misconfigured my front door by not locking it, which doesn't give someone the right to walk in and look around - but I have no idea what Adafruit is specifically being accused of doing.

That isn’t legal in most jurisdictions either. You’re not a lawyer.

What isn’t legal? Cant really square your comment with GP comment.
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