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Sam Altman and Dario Amodei are both walking back AI jobs apocalypse predictions

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Re: Sam Altman and Dario Amodei are both walking back AI jobs apocalypse predictions

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post #104

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I don't understand what you're saying here. (Personally I would love to see Sam and Dario credibly walk back their jobs doomerism talk, but I don't think the facts match the headline in this case.)

But you also don't know . So, it seems like a contradiction. Also, for fun, I asked Opus 4.8 to confirm or deny this... Full text: """ Confirmed. The quote is accurate. Altman said it on May 26, 2026, during a virtual interview at a Commonwealth Bank of Australia (CBA) technology conference in Sydney, in conversation with CBA CEO Matt Comyn. He was speaking remotely to the conference about AI's impact on jobs. (Inter…

Wow, that's a bad answer from Claude. I looks like it cited half a dozen publications who all pretty much just copied and pasted the same tiny fragment of quote from each other.

Note that I'm not denying he said those things, just that I don't think there's a credible path from a couple of sentences in that one interview on Tuesday to headlines like "Sam Altman and Dario Amodei are both walking back AI jobs apocalypse predictions".

(It's amusing to me how many people accuse me of "hype" while simultaneously being quite happy to consume hyped headlines that match their priors.)

Re: Sam Altman and Dario Amodei are both walking back AI jobs apocalypse predictions

#153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A significant job loss will trigger a deep recession which will eventually hit most AI customers so they will have too few customers to be profitable. The best (for AI business) scenario is when productivity is increased without mass unemployment.

If this means universal basic income the GOP will kill themselves in apoplectic rage!

Themselves? No.

Re: Sam Altman and Dario Amodei are both walking back AI jobs apocalypse predictions

#154
post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But you also don't know . So, it seems like a contradiction. Also, for fun, I asked Opus 4.8 to confirm or deny this... Full text: """ Confirmed. The quote is accurate. Altman said it on May 26, 2026, during a virtual interview at a Commonwealth Bank of Australia (CBA) technology conference in Sydney, in conversation with CBA CEO Matt Comyn. He was speaking remotely to the conference about AI's impact on jobs. (Inter…

Wow, that's a bad answer from Claude. I looks like it cited half a dozen publications who all pretty much just copied and pasted the same tiny fragment of quote from each other. Note that I'm not denying he said those things, just that I don't think there's a credible path from a couple of sentences in that one interview on Tuesday to headlines like "Sam Altman and Dario Amodei are both walking back AI jobs apocalyps…

Hype or not, you can't seem to confirm or deny either. So, again...

Re: Sam Altman and Dario Amodei are both walking back AI jobs apocalypse predictions

#155

To recap: 1) they developed and heavily pushed a technology they thought would result in mass unemployment, 2) they now believe they are wrong, so the market/government should definitely support their company going public. Which means that they were both intending to tank the economy and take your job away, and they were also wrong in their predictions, and now want to be rewarded for both with more money.

Kind of tells me something about Money, that these are some of the richest people on the planet.

I'm not sure what exactly .. but throwing any random idea against the wall and seeing what sticks, ethics be damned, seems to be the common thread.

Re: Sam Altman and Dario Amodei are both walking back AI jobs apocalypse predictions

#156

Are they walking back their PR or their actual beliefs? I think they realize that even if AI takes all jobs, the process to getting there will be less turbulent if they obfuscate and minimize it, until the working class no longer has leverage, rather than sounding the alarm earlier, leading to a more concerted populist uprising, and then AI is regulated far more than they want

They are walking back old PR with updated PR

Re: Sam Altman and Dario Amodei are both walking back AI jobs apocalypse predictions

#157
post #66

This is an absolutely classic PR "submarine" effort to reframe the impact of AI Paul Graham has mandatory essay on this - https://www.paulgraham.com/submarine.html (1) More than 50% of Americans at this point are more concerned about AI than excited for it - https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2026/03/12/key-findi... (2) Popular media is feeding into this zeitgeist with headlines like - "Prepare for an AI jobs ap…

I think it's your (implied) second suggestion. It's interesting that someone here even predicted that AI companies would walk back such statements, I think it was in the Eric Schmidt booing thread.

Re: Sam Altman and Dario Amodei are both walking back AI jobs apocalypse predictions

#158
post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wow, that's a bad answer from Claude. I looks like it cited half a dozen publications who all pretty much just copied and pasted the same tiny fragment of quote from each other. Note that I'm not denying he said those things, just that I don't think there's a credible path from a couple of sentences in that one interview on Tuesday to headlines like "Sam Altman and Dario Amodei are both walking back AI jobs apocalyps…

Hype or not, you can't seem to confirm or deny either. So, again...

I'm lost, what am I supposed to be confirming or denying here?

Re: Sam Altman and Dario Amodei are both walking back AI jobs apocalypse predictions

#159
post #45

Unfortunately it will take longer for our bosses to walk it back. I feel like I'm fighting the battle daily, telling execs what kind of work LLMs do not replace... it's very slippery, they keep on doing the rhetorical texas two-step - I don't think they even realize they're doing it. We communicate that LLM is amplifying, they hear it can replace. "No, we need humans to help with specs" "But AI can help with that." "…

It tells you a lot about your execs and how little they care, either for their employees or their customers. The quarterly profits are their God and they will worship at the altar of the stock price. Instead of finding ways to make AI enhance their employees and make them more productive, they immediately jump to ways to eliminate employees. It's the opposite of a growth mentallity. I'd love for these executives to s…

It's the opposite of a growth mentality

But to the captains of industry, this is the growth mentality. It's growth--- but only for them, not for the hoi polloi.

Re: Sam Altman and Dario Amodei are both walking back AI jobs apocalypse predictions

#160

Sam Altman and other big figures tend to shape their narratives around their personal and organizational interests. When people were skeptical, they pushed hard into the "God-like AI" narrative. Now that safety concerns are growing and their growth plans are in danger, they're pushing back against what they used to advocate. Even if they genuinely believe what they’re saying, their perspective is still fundamentally…

I think they just say shit. And then they say the exact opposite shit, without blinking. Maybe that's why they confuse next token prediction with thought, not to ennoble "AI", but to absolve themselves.
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