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Re: Valve raises Steam Deck prices

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Post by bigfishrunning »

joecot wrote: post #91
e40 wrote: post #79

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Now imagine TSMC being controlled by China. While I think it's fairly low probability, the imagination does create some pretty dystopian scenarios.

China, who keeps undercutting ai prices and producing things efficiently? I don't have to imagine what it would be like under communism in order to see what it's already like under capitalism.

> China, who keeps undercutting ai prices (by training on model output) and producing things efficiently (with slave labor)?

Yeah, things are going great over there

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utopiah wrote: post #93
e40 wrote: post #79

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Now imagine TSMC being controlled by China. While I think it's fairly low probability, the imagination does create some pretty dystopian scenarios.

How would that work? They can't take the fabs (single door opened and dust makes it all useless) and even if they could they can't run ASML machines with their support. So... labor camp fabs on unmaintained STOA hardware from a single company everybody relies on? I can't imagine that scenario. Either they manage to redeploy the whole value chain (not saying it's impossible but doesn't seem to be the case at scale for…

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Re: Valve raises Steam Deck prices

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Post by jauntywundrkind »

t-writescode wrote: post #62
jauntywundrkind wrote: post #32

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8x more expensive? I doubt things have ever gotten anywhere remotely near this crazy this bought out this not for sale this fast.

Tulips?

Tulips just look pretty. That's a mania. I think we recognize the mental agility that having compute fan give people, that we acknowledge this bicycle of the mind as potentially freeing liberating and virtually travelling.

Re: Valve raises Steam Deck prices

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Post by jauntywundrkind »

xienze wrote: post #116
malfist wrote: post #83

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Memory used to be worth more than gold by weight, and still every stick was sold. GPUs, flight controllers, etc went sky high during the pandemic and we still buy them today. Hard drives got way more expensive during flooding, and we still have local storage.

> Memory used to be worth more than gold by weight, and still every stick was sold. And right before that, was it dirt cheap? No? Slightly different scenario then. > GPUs, flight controllers, etc went sky high during the pandemic and we still buy them today. They're even more now... > Hard drives got way more expensive during flooding, and we still have local storage. Nowhere near as expensive as they are now, nowher…

I'm so unsure why someone was working so hard to wedge such doubt amid such clearness. Yes, well said, very core clear differences you raise, my thanks.

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Post by jeffwask »

jdprgm wrote: post #90

I just checked amazon and I paid $350 in Nov 24' for 96GB (2x48GB) 6800MT DDR5 which at the time felt quite expensive and a bit of a splurge but I figured I had my DDR4 kit for almost a decade so probably similar lifespan for DDR5. That same listing is currently $1300!!! When RAM prices are increasing like a crypto currency we have a real societal problem.

I think I've lived through three separate RAM boom cycles at this point. Two for sure...

Re: Valve raises Steam Deck prices

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Post by retired »

BadBadJellyBean wrote: post #56
wnevets wrote: post #12

> The 1TB OLED model got a $300 price increase, and now costs $949. How is it possible for the steam machine to be under $1,000?

I'd be interested in a bare bones version. That way I could shop for RAM and an SSD myself.

I want to go one step further and be able to add the CPU and GPU myself. Would also make future upgrades easier.

Maybe someone can invent a universal system to allow CPU and GPU upgrades on a desktop computer.

Re: Valve raises Steam Deck prices

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Post by stavros »

tmtvl wrote: post #36
Andrex wrote: post #17

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...no OLED screen? I'm grasping at very few straws here...

It very specifically says: > The 1TB OLED model That said, I thought HN was annoyed at Valve for taking a 30% cut, so that's probably how they can keep the Deck under 1k.

This thread is talking about the upcoming Steam Machine, not the Deck.

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Post by baron816 »

jnovek wrote: post #142
baron816 wrote: post #133

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Is this supposed to be an analogy?

Don’t blame others’ consumption for high prices. We do not want a system where we say “I don’t like your consumption of X because it makes the cost of my consumption of X go up”.

The solution here is for the producers of electronics to increase production, not to go around saying “using chips for AI is bad. Chips should be used for good things like playing video games.”

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