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Xiaomi MiMo-v2.5 Series API Permanent Price Reduction Up to 99%

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Re: Xiaomi MiMo-v2.5 Series API Permanent Price Reduction Up to 99%

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Post by passive »

6ak74rfy wrote: post #96
passive wrote: post #5

I worked part time with MiMo 2.5-pro over the last month, and barely managed to use 500 Million of the 700 Million tokens I had allocated. My plan was just upgraded to 38 BILLION tokens per month. That's at least 10X the tokens I've used in my entire agentic development so far. I should probably downgrade my plan, but we'll see. :)

Token allocation/cost aside, how was the quality of the model? Any comparison with any other model you've used? For example, I've heard DeepSeek v4 Pro is comparable to Sonnet 4.7, so I just bought some credits to try it out.

I was using Gemini and Claude quite a bit over the last year, mostly with pro or opus for planning and flash or sonnet for implementation.

MiMo is the best one I've used so far, but I haven't done anything interesting with the Claude 4.7 models. It seems conservative with generally good "instincts", getting things working quickly without too much complexity. I've also embedded it in several different projects so far, and it's been pretty easy and effective.

Re: Xiaomi MiMo-v2.5 Series API Permanent Price Reduction Up to 99%

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Post by red-iron-pine »

dgacmu wrote: post #143
Haven880 wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

USA is as censored as what we believe about China. You will get cancelled by Americans if you use "communist" stuff. That is why hardly any Chinese EVs in USA. Because it is communists stuff. The odd thing is iphone is made in China. So it is more of selective enforcement when convenience. Chinese AI even self host means your will influence by communism. You want McCarthy era back again?

Chinese EV policy in the US is about propping up our auto industry despite its best efforts to lose the EV battle. This has nothing to do with "communism", it's a purely economic thing that ties into internal US voting blocs.

and by internal voting blocks we mean large US automakers and their dealership cartel

Re: Xiaomi MiMo-v2.5 Series API Permanent Price Reduction Up to 99%

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Post by 827a »

gmerc wrote: post #150
827a wrote: post #144

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The issue you're not seeing is: Western corporations, the primary drivers of AI spend globally, are not forming business relationships with nationalized Chinese AI labs in order to directly use the DeepSeek API. They're using it through western proxies like OpenRouter, if they're doing it all (newsflash: they aren't). They are forming business relationships with Anthropic, Google, and OpenAI to directly use their API…

You can access Deepseek on Azure, Perplexity, Cohere, Bedrock what are you hallucinating about

I'm well aware (no one is using it there, either).

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Post by culi »

ericmay wrote: post #85
bel8 wrote: post #54

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It's funny, in a good way, because their off-peak times match perfectly the werstern peak demand.

Can folks in China run US-based models? Seems like they should take advantage of this overlap in peak timing.

OpenAI and Anthropic restricted API access for developers based in mainland China, citing geopolitical competition and national security risks.

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Post by Bolwin »

827a wrote: post #114
Bolwin wrote: post #109

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OpenRouter is not indicative of volume. Most high volume clients will go to the providers directly. There's not point to paying the 5% OR cut if you know what you want.

That's just it: This is not happening with the Chinese models, because western corporations are the primary drivers of AI adoption globally and western corporations are not signing up for a DeepSeek API key. If they're working with Chinese models at all, which they rarely are, it is via a western-hosted provider like Bedrock, Vertex, or OpenRouter; or self-hosting. Sure, hobbyists and individual programmers might be…

Here's another: https://xcancel.com/FireworksAI_HQ/status/206010388602804673...

Fireworks is processing 30T tokens a day on open models, or about 210T a week. So about 40% of gemini? I'd say that's pretty good.

Two more points: 1. https://openrouter.ai/provider/fireworks ~5B tokens average daily on openrouter from fireworks, which is a ration of ~1:6000 2. https://openrouter.ai/rankings total tokens on openrouter, ~4T daily, and more than half seems to be open. Say 2T.

If other providers' ratio is anywhere close to fireworks, that's on the order of 10 quadrillion open tokens daily.

That said I'd guess the ratio is probably not nearly as high for most providers.

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Post by linzhangrun »

ericmay wrote: post #141
weird-eye-issue wrote: post #136

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https://developers.openai.com/api/docs/supported-countries You can check for yourself here to see that China and Hong Kong are conveniently missing. We do see blocking from Anthropic and Gemini as well in some regions Also even though Vietnam and the Philippines are technically supported we do see blocking from some IP addresses in those regions too

I see - I was just curious. Does China permit citizens from accessing American AI models if they were permitted by the American companies?

Absolutely not, OpenAI is not an organization they can "control."

Re: Xiaomi MiMo-v2.5 Series API Permanent Price Reduction Up to 99%

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Post by ericmay »

culi wrote: post #155
ericmay wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can folks in China run US-based models? Seems like they should take advantage of this overlap in peak timing.

OpenAI and Anthropic restricted API access for developers based in mainland China, citing geopolitical competition and national security risks.

Yes but does China also restrict Chinese citizens from using these models?

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Post by shanoaice »

_davide_ wrote: post #123
irthomasthomas wrote: post #61

Insane. 3 points behind opus on the artificialanalysis index. Mimo cost ~$400 at the old price, so about $40 today. Opus cost ~$5000 That's over 100x cheaper, and just 3 points behind. I can't wait to experiment with an llm consortium of 100 deepseek and mimo models. Crazy times. Shut up and take my m̶o̶n̶e̶y̶ data! Edit: Gemini on google search told me I could write strikethrough text on hn using . Mimo told me it w…

I had a subscription before the price was cut down; the model kept randomly looping the with same character (burning 30% of the budget in one shot), and the overall performance for agentic purposes is, simply put, terrible. It finds non-existing bugs and randomly removes chunks of code to fix them, then even presents it as an "extra fix". Maybe it's a good generalistic model; I haven't tested it in that regard. MiniM…

similarly for me, MiniMax is kind of horrible that it somewhat regularly fall into loops that I had to save it from. DeepSeek & MiMO rarely got stuck. wonder how you get completely reversed experience.
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