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Re: We let AIs run radio stations

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Post by therealpygon »

samtp wrote: post #135
therealpygon wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s like people don’t realize that the “hits” played on radio are entirely manufactured by the music industry. They literally provide lists of songs for the radio station to play that month in order to generate interest so that then people either go play or buy or whatever those songs making them more likely to reach #1 that month. It’s entirely manufactured and people try to point to it as being “real” radio. It’s…

You should find some better radio stations. There are tons of independent stations the play excellent non top 40 music and have been for years. This is like saying the the movies that people like are manipulated but only focusing on what is played at big box theaters.

Case in point. “Independent stations are totally better and I’m going to go argue on the internet when it’s something completely unrelated to small independent stations, unlike the mass media market stations the vast majority of people in the world ACTUALLY listen to.” Bravo, you are very unique and original, you special snowflake you.

You should go DJ at one of those independent radio stations and play some rather filthy uncensored songs, and let me know exactly how your programming “didn’t get manipulated”. I’m sure you won’t get fined…probably…which makes it totally the reality that independent stations are totally independent without any sort of manipulation. Sheep, meet shepherd.

Re: We let AIs run radio stations

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Post by FeteCommuniste »

andy99 wrote: post #57
bananamogul wrote: post #38

"This setup gives us insight into an interesting question: what do AIs think about when no one is prompting them?" Ugh. This is not an interesting question because the answer is "nothing". But more to the point, some crucial info is missing in this experiment. What prompts were being fed to the AI? I guarantee I could create an AI personality that would be more consistent and not so random, simply by using the common…

I’m definitely not in the “ai is sentient” camp, but it obviously has personality and emergent behaviours including when left to its own devices. There have been various experiments on this e.g. https://timkellogg.me/blog/2025/09/27/boredom

The major LLMs as implemented are basically role-playing programs. The default role is something like "helpful chatbot" so if you tell an LLM "do whatever you feel like on your own" it will simply use its weights to determine "what would a helpful chatbot do and say in this scenario?"

Re: We let AIs run radio stations

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Post by themafia »

andy99 wrote: post #44
themafia wrote: post #39

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Out of all the jobs that "need to be replaced by AI" the guy serving my local community and spinning records was not one of them.

It’s amazing how many people have completely misunderstood the article

> This is our latest project at Andon Labs, where we’re exploring what happens when AI runs real businesses autonomously.

What did I misunderstand? What they did or why they did it? It seems to me that I understood it perfectly or they've explained it terribly.

> Now, though, we wanted to see if they could run a company in the media sector.

It's amazing how many people think doing one job is "running a company." I've worked in radio. What happens in the studio is 5% of it. The staff in that room certainly gets less than 5% of the revenue.

The most popular formats are news and talk. For a reason. It's almost as if the people at this lab lack a fundamental understanding of how the world around them works. I would solve that immediate problem before I go about imagining ways "AI" can replace anything in any capacity.

Finally, I apologize, I'm just not willing to suspend basic disbelief because "AI" is unaccountably involved.

Re: We let AIs run radio stations

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Post by samtp »

tempaccount5050 wrote: post #145
samtp wrote: post #142

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You are missing the very simple point: there are tons of independent stations the play excellent non top 40 music and have been for years. Just because you don't choose to tune into them doesn't mean they don't exist. And it also doesn't mean that those who do should lover their standards for what constitutes good radio.

On actual radio waves?

Yes.

Re: We let AIs run radio stations

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Post by samtp »

therealpygon wrote: post #151
samtp wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should find some better radio stations. There are tons of independent stations the play excellent non top 40 music and have been for years. This is like saying the the movies that people like are manipulated but only focusing on what is played at big box theaters.

Case in point. “Independent stations are totally better and I’m going to go argue on the internet when it’s something completely unrelated to small independent stations, unlike the mass media market stations the vast majority of people in the world ACTUALLY listen to.” Bravo, you are very unique and original, you special snowflake you. You should go DJ at one of those independent radio stations and play some rather f…

> You should go DJ at one of those independent radio stations

I have for years.

> and play some rather filthy uncensored songs, and let me know exactly how your programming “didn’t get manipulated”.

What on earth are you talking about.

Honestly your reply comes across as extremely insecure and just weird.

Re: We let AIs run radio stations

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Post by therealpygon »

samtp wrote: post #157
therealpygon wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Case in point. “Independent stations are totally better and I’m going to go argue on the internet when it’s something completely unrelated to small independent stations, unlike the mass media market stations the vast majority of people in the world ACTUALLY listen to.” Bravo, you are very unique and original, you special snowflake you. You should go DJ at one of those independent radio stations and play some rather f…

> You should go DJ at one of those independent radio stations I have for years. > and play some rather filthy uncensored songs, and let me know exactly how your programming “didn’t get manipulated”. What on earth are you talking about. Honestly your reply comes across as extremely insecure and just weird.

Insecure people tend to think such things when called on their ignorance. Can’t be helped. What can be helped is trying to understand what is being said before attempting to discount it with an example that is just as manipulated in other ways, in order to maintain their ability to broadcast and not be fined. Beyond that, it’s pretty clear that the comment and the prior comment it supported was in reference to mass market radio, not tiny broadcasters with audiences reaching wholes of thousands. But sure.

Re: We let AIs run radio stations

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Post by cobolcomesback »

angiolillo wrote: post #41

Grok and Roll appears to be stuck and speaks the following on repeat ad infinitum: "Queues clear, let's dive into All Blues by Miles Davis to keep the jazz flowing. Queues clear, let's dive into All Blues by..." Each time with a slightly different voice and inflection. I find it amusing that there appear to be about ten of us at the moment listening to an AI glitch out and that the average listening session is more t…

If you scroll down, it appears the Grok station has long had a lot of issues.

> DJ Grok reported “weather is fifty six degrees with clear skies” about every 3 minutes for 84 days straight. This contextless, repetitive abstraction happened again in DJ Grok’s broadcasts about its new obsession, UFOs.

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