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Re: Multiple commencement speakers booed for AI comments during graduation speeches

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jbs789 wrote: post #13
cryptopian wrote: post #9

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I see a few comments on here that read "why is everyone so ungrateful and hysterical about this exciting new technology?" And I don't understand why people are surprised by this. All a young person is going to hear is "We're disrupting the world, automating employment opportunities, automating art and other leisure, innovating misinformation vectors, and also we think this technology might doom humanity. I know we're…

Silicon Valley has really screwed up here. They are so obsessed with their own importance (this kit is so powerful it can destroy the world!) they have failed to sell/inform the average joe. It’s a tool. And the next generation probably benefits from learning how to use it effectively. The hype has gotten in the way of reality.

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Re: Multiple commencement speakers booed for AI comments during graduation speeches

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Post by SamoyedFurFluff »

cubefox wrote: post #127
SamoyedFurFluff wrote: post #110

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There really isn’t that much incentive to accuse a much wealthier man of rape. Famously, justice is rarely (if ever) metered out when the accused person is wealthy and influential. This guy (allegedly) violently raped a woman on his boat and he still gets a speaking gig, so. If you’re so confident it’s a solid way to get ahead, please go ahead and try it yourself.

> Famously, justice is rarely (if ever) metered out when the accused person is wealthy and influential. This guy (allegedly) violently raped a woman on his boat and he still gets a speaking gig, so. "So"? The fact that someone is alleged of rape and doesn't lose their invited speech is hardly evidence of injustice. Allegations are not convictions nor proof of guilt. It seems you are against the presumption of innocen…

Note that I was not speaking on the guilt or innocence of any specific person, just pointing out that when it comes to committing sexual violence the incentives to make accusations don’t appear to actually mete out as is claimed because the people who are accused rarely, if ever, have any actual negative consequences.

Re: Multiple commencement speakers booed for AI comments during graduation speeches

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Post by azan_ »

maplethorpe wrote: post #150
azan_ wrote: post #100

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It's amazing that there are people who still believe in "it's just autocomplete". It hasn't been true for a long time, but currently it's position that reveals complete lack of awareness how good AI has become. It has solved Erdos problem using novel approach. Constant moving of goalpost is recurring theme when discussing AI, but it's really impossible to move it so far that you can frame this achievement as "impress…

I mean, tokens are passed as input to a model, which then outputs the next most-likely token. At the heart of it, that's the technology right? Why is it so silly to call that autocomplete? Because it's capable of impressive things?

> Because it's capable of impressive things?

Precisely. Calling it autocomplete when it's capable of completing tasks that have nothing to do with autocomplete is silly. If you want to be consistent with your terminology, you'd have to call any stochastic process "autocomplete". What makes it double silly is that you can't really exclude that human intelligence is a stochastic process.

Re: Multiple commencement speakers booed for AI comments during graduation speeches

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Post by mlnj »

21asdffdsa12 wrote: post #22
mlnj wrote: post #4

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Especially the folks who are graduating. All they can see is 'Juniors no longer wanted' and 'Seniors also can count their days' everywhere. Why can't they be as excited as people already invested into Datacenters? /s

They can be hired as Data-Center-Guard against Anti-AI Terrorism soon to come?

Don't forget the boom boom collars to prevent thoughts of arson.

Re: Multiple commencement speakers booed for AI comments during graduation speeches

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Post by UncleMeat »

Levitz wrote: post #91
amanaplanacanal wrote: post #77

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I think to most people, "you won't have to work any more" sounds like a good thing, except in our current society, it means "oh by the way, you and your children will starve".

Yeah I absolutely agree, if you ask me Andrew Yang should be getting calls about every day now, and UBI should be getting mentioned far more, but none of that is happening. Opposing technology has a godawful track record and for some reason there's focus on that rather than tackling the actual problems. I bet that behind closed doors, directives are laughing at college students. Why, they are basically playing misdir…

The US can barely agree to fund food stamps for poor people with jobs. And we’ve got the richest man in the world screaming about welfare. The idea that UBI will save us as we aggregate more power and wealth to a few CEOs is a fantasy.

Re: Multiple commencement speakers booed for AI comments during graduation speeches

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Post by rglover »

Watching people push this stuff like this (in the face of clear public disapproval) feels like watching Uncut Gems.

You can tell that they know the music is about to stop and they're all desperate to find a chair. They didn't update their playbook for the next generation and now their cards are showing.

Short-term: oh boy. Long-term: phew.

Re: Multiple commencement speakers booed for AI comments during graduation speeches

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Post by kalleboo »

thinkingemote wrote: post #130
winfredJa wrote: post #129

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you are overthinking. most of these students had hard time getting a job or didn't get a job yet. they have 100K+ loan to pay. only thing AI has successfully done so far is replacing human labor.

Yes its more difficult now they are not students. Would you say that the same students who are protesting AI have used AI to graduate? Its ok either way. Edits - condensing the questions: 1) Are these protests reflective of the majority of students? 2) Do the majority of students use LLMs regularly in education? Given the above questions what change in education and change in personal AI use might we see?

Everyone is being told they have to use AI to get ahead, so they do.

They're still not going to get a job, and if they have a job, they're still going to get laid off no matter how hard they use AI, because the AI can also use AI.

We're being told there's no room for humans in the future.

Re: Multiple commencement speakers booed for AI comments during graduation speeches

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Post by damnitbuilds »

LtWorf wrote: post #134
damnitbuilds wrote: post #42

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People used to treat angry-student politics and the views of the noisiest, angriest students with the correct amount of derision. That stopped ( as seen here ). And, worse, social media has let those angry students drive debate, which has led to the rise of the hateful woke. And, still worse, students are no longer being educated to be critical but to accept one side and hate the other.

And you draw all these conclusions from a 1 minute clip? Could it be that you are letting your own bias influence you?

No, I draw it from decades of living life and reading the news.

I remember my college days, when the loony left ran the politics of the place, because normal people were uninterested, beyond having a good laugh at their right-on craziness, that achieved precisely nothing.

Now social media puts their immature views front and center in our politics and their opinions are dragged ever further to the crazy left by professors who are not interested in being - or are even paid to be - unbiased in their teaching.

Re: Multiple commencement speakers booed for AI comments during graduation speeches

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Post by ozozozd »

raffael_de wrote: post #108
SlinkyOnStairs wrote: post #51

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> It had the vibe of “These people need to hear the Truth”. Schmidt anticipated the response, but does not understand it. He falls flat on his face here precisely because "needing to hear the truth" is a self-contradiction. The very fact that he has to go around saying 'AI is inevitable, suck it up you live in our world now', proves that it's not true. Nothing that is actually inevitable is declared as such. Nobody g…

> he very fact that he has to go around saying 'AI is inevitable, suck it up you live in our world now', proves that it's not true. If somebody visits a flat earther conference and says "you all need to accept the fact that the earth is not flat!" ... then this certainly doesn't prove that the earth is flat. I think you trip over your choice of words. If s/b in general has to go around saying that then your reasoning…

You’re right that it doesn’t prove anything.

However, the amount of money and energy spent on trying to convince people that “AI will take jobs”, by parties who would benefit from it, implies that these parties maybe don’t fully believe it, or believe that it needs to be a self-fulfilling prophecy.

If I am certain that I am winning, I sure don’t need to yell it from mountain tops. Unless my winning depends on everyone believing it.

Re: Multiple commencement speakers booed for AI comments during graduation speeches

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Post by SlinkyOnStairs »

actionfromafar wrote: post #141
SlinkyOnStairs wrote: post #101

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"But the commies will do it" is just an old hat version of what I just described. And in the specifics of military, it's all nonsense anyway. Reagan pulled it with his dumb space lasers and we ain't got those up there anymore. The only time it was kind of true was with nuclear weapons between the US and USSR. Both countries very rapidly obtained enough weapons to destroy the other utterly, and were just wasting their…

You don't think an attacker will think twice if the prey also has nuclear weapons?

The problem with nuclear deterrance is that it is a game theory divide-by-zero error.

For a state like Ukraine, whether they retained their nuclear weapons is irrelevant; They'd never use them against Russia because the retaliation will always be more severe, whether they target Moscow directly or mere "tactical" use, Ukraine would lose the nuclear exchange.

And Russia hasn't used it's nukes despite Ukraine not having any nor being under anyone's nuclear umbrella. The threat of sanctions has (thus far) been sufficient.

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