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Classic 7 is a Windows 10 LTSC mod to look 1:1 to Windows 7

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Re: Classic 7 is a Windows 10 LTSC mod to look 1:1 to Windows 7

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Now you can hit the Windows key, type Visual Studio and open a Bing search for Visual Studio, instead of actually opening VS. It’s great - if your KPI is bing DAU

I know it should be the default, but if you turn off online searches for the Start Menu, it operates exactly how you'd expect it to on Windows 11. Windows 11 is also a lot faster than 7 was on equivalent systems. Windows 7 would take minutes to boot.

>Windows 7 would take minutes to boot.

Citation needed. I went from Win7 on a i5-2500k that booted in sub 15 seconds on a SATA SSD to Win10 on a 5600x that takes 45 seconds to a minute to boot an NVME drive.

Re: Classic 7 is a Windows 10 LTSC mod to look 1:1 to Windows 7

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For me, search integrated into the start menu was a major quality of life improvement. Particularly the ability to hit the Windows key and type the name of an application. Strictly speaking, this was introduced in Vista, but I feel like Windows 7 added a lot of useful polish to the Windows Vista style of UI. I otherwise agree that the older Win 2k era UI was pretty much an ideal UI. The whole "frutiger aero" look did…

The Start Menu integrated search would have been real nice if it worked properly, but unfortunately they decided on some kind of “search” algorithm that can't even do a substring match on items in the Start Menu. I have no clue what the thinking there was, but it drives me to not want to use it.

It was a little clunky in Windows 7. Typing in "device" brings up "Devices and Printers" before what you likely want, "Device Manager". It also sometimes just forgets about things that definitely exist. Like on my Windows 7 machine, I have two command prompt shortcuts to python venvs pinned to the start menu. One is called AppName Python and the other is AppName Python Dev. Both shortcuts exist in the same folder yet when I use the search function in the start menu, only the Dev shortcut shows up. Before I made the Dev venv, the main shortcut would always show up but now it doesn't.

I've got another PC with the same setup running Windows 10 but they both show up in search results just fine.

Re: Classic 7 is a Windows 10 LTSC mod to look 1:1 to Windows 7

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I know it should be the default, but if you turn off online searches for the Start Menu, it operates exactly how you'd expect it to on Windows 11. Windows 11 is also a lot faster than 7 was on equivalent systems. Windows 7 would take minutes to boot.

>Windows 7 would take minutes to boot. Citation needed. I went from Win7 on a i5-2500k that booted in sub 15 seconds on a SATA SSD to Win10 on a 5600x that takes 45 seconds to a minute to boot an NVME drive.

Windows 7 on my 15 year old GNU/Linux computer in a VM boots faster than both Windows 10 and Windows XP also in a VM.

Re: Classic 7 is a Windows 10 LTSC mod to look 1:1 to Windows 7

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Sorry for being (slightly?) off-topic: Is there a decent way to buy this LTSC edition of Windows?

Just use the well know script to activate it and send a donation to MS or something. The margin of profit from individual keys is nothing. (Can I post the link, to the open source repo? Is it against the rules? I mean MS owns github and has no problem hosting it)

yet windows defender flags these files as trojan

Re: Classic 7 is a Windows 10 LTSC mod to look 1:1 to Windows 7

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Vista was an absolute dumpster fire but in no way compares to the awfulness of ME.

Vista wasn't remotely a dumpster fire. I used it for almost its entire lifetime, it was totally fine.

Yeah, Vista Ultimate had animated desktops, it was stable for what I did, used ReadyBoost SD card for increased performance and the HP Pavilion convertable pen/touch screen was awesome. Not everyone had the same experience.

Re: Classic 7 is a Windows 10 LTSC mod to look 1:1 to Windows 7

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> Any reason why? The 2d design of modern interfaces is terrible. Everything looks like a "Label". Scrollbars are terrible. Light gray on dark gray. And, worst of all, they need 3d acceleration to draw a bloody 2d label.

And, worst of all, they need 3d acceleration to draw a bloody 2d label Disagree it's worst of all. Why should a specialized piece of hardware not render labels? Even tosters have some GPU cores these days.

They do. It is 3d borders that they are strugling with. And borders bigger than 1px are impossible. /s

Re: Classic 7 is a Windows 10 LTSC mod to look 1:1 to Windows 7

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For me, search integrated into the start menu was a major quality of life improvement. Particularly the ability to hit the Windows key and type the name of an application. Strictly speaking, this was introduced in Vista, but I feel like Windows 7 added a lot of useful polish to the Windows Vista style of UI. I otherwise agree that the older Win 2k era UI was pretty much an ideal UI. The whole "frutiger aero" look did…

I use the Win-key+[start typing] search all the time, but I also used it in the XP era. Only then it was a third-party app, with order of magnitude more customization and control. I actually have a worse experience now, but it's just above my tolerance threshold so I don't do anything about it.

O R D E R O F M A G N I T U D E

THEY SAID THE THING!

Re: Classic 7 is a Windows 10 LTSC mod to look 1:1 to Windows 7

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From everything I've heard, running LTSC is not a good idea for a daily-driver pc. App support/compatibility is annoying and not guaranteed. I guess if you have a small set of unchanging apps that you use and that's all it could be a good pick. Interestingly, I hear a lot of people talk about LTSC, but few talking about their positive experiences. Is this the "I'm moving to Canada," of operating systems?

> From everything I've heard, running LTSC is not a good idea for a daily-driver pc.

With a bit of OOShut10, Windhawk, OoAppBuster and a bit of security policy (gpedit.msc) is bearable.

Re: Classic 7 is a Windows 10 LTSC mod to look 1:1 to Windows 7

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I think what drives me mad is its nondeterminism. If I hit Winkey and type a string, it should not be the case that I get different results from doing that 6 times in a row because it depends whether some background task which changes the results finishes first.

That's annoying, but I think what's worse is these: Start typing a word, see the thing you want, finish the word, it disappears. And Start typing, see what you want, stop typing and hit enter, but it changed to something else between when you saw it and when you hit enter.

Yes, I've had a number of these.

One of the most annoying ones combined these two properties, so depending on various internal races, typing a four letter word would either open one program, the folder that program was installed in (!?), or attempt to Bing the common word

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