I wish I could upvote this 10 times! I love the film - blew my mind when I saw it on cable just after it came out.
The fighting scene was so funny PUT ON THE GLASSES!
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Re: They Live (1988) inspired Adblocker
#152Earlier quoted context omitted.
> somehow I don't think that is what Carpenter was going for. Same deal with the Starship Troopers movie. When Helldivers first came out, it was really incredible to see how many people truly didn't get the irony.
> Starship Troopers movie This movie is so misunderstood. It's basically disliked by Heinlein fans who took offense, and by people unfamiliar with both Heinlein and Verhoeven who thought it was actually Beverly Hills + Space Fascism without irony. I like it for what it does, but I'm more of a fan of Robocop.
Unfortunately most Heinlein classics like Door into Summer or The Moon is a Harsh Mistress can't be adapted visually for various reasons.
Re: They Live (1988) inspired Adblocker
#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
I guess JWZ has some sort of referral check that instantly black-holes any traffic coming from HN? And interestingly, the WayBackMachine snapshots are similarly boobytrapped: https://web.archive.org/web/20260115112314/https://www.jwz.o... So I guess google "They Live Mozilla Logo" if you want to see the article. Sorry about that!
Just open a new tab and paste the link in.
Ugh... that worked, but I gave up once I got to the home page.
To quote the late, great, Ray Arnold...
"I hate this Hacker crap!"
Re: They Live (1988) inspired Adblocker
#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
Did something nefarious happen to your link?
I guess JWZ has some sort of referral check that instantly black-holes any traffic coming from HN? And interestingly, the WayBackMachine snapshots are similarly boobytrapped: https://web.archive.org/web/20260115112314/https://www.jwz.o... So I guess google "They Live Mozilla Logo" if you want to see the article. Sorry about that!
the original redirected to the softcore image and then the web archive link tried to rip my eardrums.
this kind of adversarial 'defence' (attack) is new to me, maybe i'm naive but i didn't like it.
Re: They Live (1988) inspired Adblocker
#155Earlier quoted context omitted.
I guess JWZ has some sort of referral check that instantly black-holes any traffic coming from HN? And interestingly, the WayBackMachine snapshots are similarly boobytrapped: https://web.archive.org/web/20260115112314/https://www.jwz.o... So I guess google "They Live Mozilla Logo" if you want to see the article. Sorry about that!
Just open a new tab and paste the link in.
It also sets a HN=1 cookie, so you may need to clear that or use incognito
Re: They Live (1988) inspired Adblocker
#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
They absolutely conform; by what mechanism do you think they all happened to pick the same bundle of labels and beliefs?
> They absolutely conform; by what mechanism do you think they all happened to pick the same bundle of labels and beliefs? Are you conforming/obeying when you believe the Earth is round? That the sky is blue? Perhaps a bunch of people picking "the same bundle of labels and beliefs" is… simply them recognizing/accepting reality?
Depends on why you believe those things.
If you believe the Earth is round because someone you view as an authority told you, and you never asked for any reasons or evidence, then yes, you're conforming/obeying.
If you believe the Earth is round because you understand the extremely strong evidence we have for that, then no, you're not conforming/obeying.
> Perhaps a bunch of people picking "the same bundle of labels and beliefs" is… simply them recognizing/accepting reality?
For something like "the sky is blue", sure--we can confirm it by our own observations and us all using the same word to describe the color we see the sky as being.
For something like "the Earth is round", it's more complicated, because it's not obvious just from observation, at least not the kind of observation that ordinary people today are going to be making in their daily lives. But if, for example, you have enough experience on oceangoing ships, you're likely to have made observations that were part of what convinced certain ancient Greeks that the Earth was round. Or if you've observed enough lunar eclipses to see how the shape of the Earth's shadow appears on the Moon. Or if you've observed the Sun's angle above the horizon in the sky at enough different latitudes on the summer or winter solstice. But how many people have made those observations? Or understand what they tell us about the shape of the Earth?
And of course people, even very large numbers of people, can also pick "the same bundle of labels and beliefs" about things that aren't reality. So no, you can't rely on that as an indicator.
Re: They Live (1988) inspired Adblocker
#157on the same line, but less pop meme replacements https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/artificial-cl... it replaces terms used to exalt Artificial Intelligence to what they really mean, and some tongue in cheek jokes against things that are used to pass billionaires/tech as friendly (e.g. replacing bill gates with his actual name)
Caution - At one point I was running a greasemonkey script to replace religious words with funny alternatives. Had a bad time when I installed it and forgot about it and it replaced my manager's first name, Christian, with the funny alternative.
Re: They Live (1988) inspired Adblocker
#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
They absolutely conform; by what mechanism do you think they all happened to pick the same bundle of labels and beliefs?
Of course, choosing to stand up to the man together with those like minded makes you the real conformist. A deep philosophical conundrum for the prepubescent.
Life got easier once I realized that being contrarian meant you were just as much controlled by other people as being conformist.
Re: They Live (1988) inspired Adblocker
#159Earlier quoted context omitted.
> the people making this claim are certainly not obeying, conforming, or refraining from questioning authority. In my experience racists tend to just latch on to different authorities to blindly follow and obedience and conformity are even more strongly enforced. I've had long discussions with racists over the "rebel" identity they see in the confederate flag who shortly after demonstrated incredible amounts of boot-…
But it's not The Federal Authorities™, so they don't think it counts as conformity.
Until it’s ICE boots to be licked.
Re: They Live (1988) inspired Adblocker
#160Earlier quoted context omitted.
The second half of the line was also relevant, since the claim of Jews controlling the world was specifically a Nazi one.
That actually traces back further to, appositley, the White Russians and their Protocols of Zion to smear democracy as a Jewish plot. From there it spread to Henry Ford, Winston Churchill and Adolf Hitler amongst others.
Is that why Lebowski drinks White Russians exclusively?