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People Hate AI Art

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Re: People Hate AI Art

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Post by emccue »

schmookeeg wrote: post #131
emccue wrote: post #107

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Note that you don't think its awesome . The best case scenario for someone normal is for them to be totally neutral. To think "its fine." The worst case is they think less of you and anything associated. That is not a worthwhile risk - and thats the thing I am super confused more people don't have an intuitive sense of.

I think the AI dino is fine. I'm not aware of anyone judging my taste in art and thinking less of me. If they judge, they do so silently.

I want to highlight a comment someone made elsewhere in the thread.

> I recently wrote a technical post on my blog where I thought it would be kind of funny to add some genAI of me doing stuff, some people told me they stopped reading immediately once they saw those images… it’s making me reconsider honestly :-/

It was one of the many here that got flagged. Boy howdy this got spicy. But this is the situation I am talking about. Some might think its fine, but a lot of people won't so its usually not worth it unless you want to narrow your audience.

Re: People Hate AI Art

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Post by doginasuit »

archagon wrote: post #125
doginasuit wrote: post #25

People hate AI compositions, especially from a publication. There are many valid uses for AI image generators. My nieces and I have a blast coming up with stories and illustrating them with generated images. It is even better when they hallucinate an extra finger or ear, we can work it into the story. I also like to use AI as a sort of filter on pictures that I took. Make a photo look like a drawing, for example. It…

Goodbye doodling and tapping into the power of childhood imagination. A horrid crutch.

That's a little curmudgeonly. 99% of our story time doesn't involve computers at all, it is just something we do sometimes too. Lots of doodling and imagination to go around.

Re: People Hate AI Art

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Post by Balgair »

NDlurker wrote: post #48
rlt wrote: post #19

Most “AI art” is art like “clip art” is art. This is a phase that will pass. There will be (and already are) legitimate artists who leverage AI as a creative tool like any other medium/tool (Photoshop, cameras, paint brushes, etc). I respect them even if others immediately dismiss anything AI related.

AI has completely replaced clip art at my job. I miss those old clip art CDs from the 90s

https://thenounproject.com/

In case you were being serious ;)

Re: People Hate AI Art

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Post by card_zero »

csallen wrote: post #71
happytoexplain wrote: post #43

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Please, please stop with the AI analogies. Just make your argument on its own terms. "It's different from X" is no more meaningful than "it's the same as X".

> It's different from X" The post doesn't even say "it's different from X". It just says "it's unfashionable," with no comparison or mention of history at all, as if this is the first time a new technology has ever been unfashionable immediately after its release. > Just make your argument on its own terms. I feel like my argument is obvious? The "unfashionable" period for useful-but-jarringly-new consumer-facing tec…

You can't predict culture, you can't predict fashion, you can't predict the course of history, you can't predict innovations, you can't predict any of this creativity-mediated stuff.

Re: People Hate AI Art

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Post by JKCalhoun »

fragmede wrote: post #118
JKCalhoun wrote: post #117

I can draw. But since I didn't keep at it for decades now, I am, at best, at the same level as I was when I was in my twenties. It sucks but I suppose computers came along and stole away all my leisure (and later professional) time. My choice. (I regret it often though.) So, while I could do incidental art for a project I am working on, AI is going to do better than I could. (I have uploaded sketches of mine though a…

Reframe it. Don't look at it as a business failure. You wanted something to exist, and were willing to pay $x to make that happen. Hobbies don't have to generate income. It would be nice, but does it have to? If I pay $x,000 to go on a ski trip, I don't expect it to generate income for me somehow, so why should making PCBs or iOS apps be any different?

I understand your point, and, to be sure, it is just a hobby to me at this point—and I have no expectation of a hobby "making a profit". (To be sure iOS apps were a different story).

Paying artists though makes this hobby an even more expensive one. And as I am not making any money, it's not like I am robbing anyone… (Another way to look at it perhaps?)

Re: People Hate AI Art

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Post by Kapura »

soerxpso wrote: post #81
Kapura wrote: post #64

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If people think a piece of art is AI, the impression is that you didn't spend any amount of time or effort on creating it (even if you did, which, hilarious if true. you could have been making real art). Further, the vocal anti-AI art people who view it as a product created by grinding down billions of person-hours of experience and work into a sort of uniform slurry which is then fed back to them. They do not apprec…

Half of his recommendations for alternatives take less time to make. You (and the author) are making assumptions about what "people in general" think without any data to back it up. What you've experienced anecdotally in your social circle doesn't necessarily apply everywhere.

Right, you think the people you're communicating with are stupid, and I believe that we should aspire to be better.

Re: People Hate AI Art

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Post by NDlurker »

Balgair wrote: post #153
NDlurker wrote: post #48

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AI has completely replaced clip art at my job. I miss those old clip art CDs from the 90s

https://thenounproject.com/ In case you were being serious ;)

I was being serious. Thank you! One of the first CD-ROMs I got was clip art so clip art always reminds me of being a kid discovering computers.

Re: People Hate AI Art

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Post by JKCalhoun »

mcphage wrote: post #122
JKCalhoun wrote: post #117

I can draw. But since I didn't keep at it for decades now, I am, at best, at the same level as I was when I was in my twenties. It sucks but I suppose computers came along and stole away all my leisure (and later professional) time. My choice. (I regret it often though.) So, while I could do incidental art for a project I am working on, AI is going to do better than I could. (I have uploaded sketches of mine though a…

> AI is going to do better than I could I don't know about that. Lots of people use AI to write text for them, saying "AI makes it sound better"—but the truth is, it doesn't make it sound better. It makes it sound a lot worse, and pisses off the people you want to read it. So does AI draw better than you could? Well, if you did the drawing, would it make your customer base hate it? Because AI art probably will. I don…

Maybe there's a hair top be split with regard to 1) presenting your written piece to an LLM and asking for feedback (not dissimilar to the role of an editor for authors—or, you know, just reading it aloud to your spouse to elicit feedback) versus 2) asking the LLM to write it for you wholesale.

I have done the same with artwork (although not exclusive I must confess). I draw a thing, upload it, and ask the AI to draw the same—perhaps adding, "Make it appear to be an ink and brush style perhaps akin to a mid-19th-Century illustration for a children's book."

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Post by CyberDildonics »

Maxatar wrote: post #31
presbyterian wrote: post #13

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Aesthetic taste isn’t (inherently) rational? I don’t need a reason to find something ugly, I can just find it ugly.

No one is arguing against that point.

Lots of people are arguing against that point.

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Post by HDThoreaun »

dvfjsdhgfv wrote: post #148
tptacek wrote: post #47

Corrected: a certain type of very loud and very online person in your audience hates AI art and thinks less of you for using it. But that doesn't matter, because the game theory they outlined is directionally right. The cohort of people who hate AI art is relatively small. But the cohort of people who love it is even smaller. People can generally spot it, and most people are indifferent to it. Having said that: I thi…

Anecdata, but among real people I know and touched the subject, nobody has anything positive to say about GenAI "art". And in online communities, most often people just call it "AI slop" and express fatigue. It's very different form a brief period when people were excited by midjourney-generated images. I believe it just faded off just like any novelty.

My anecdata is very different. I know many people who enjoy AI art. Most of my friends have made some songs they enjoy on suno, we enjoy creating and sharing funny slop
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