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In what way is it crippled?
Takes forever to load anything
I use YouTube on Firefox (with uBlock Origin) almost exclusively and this has not been my experience.
This Month in Ladybird – April 2026
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Re: This Month in Ladybird – April 2026
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If LLMs allow them to speedrun to an alternative mainstream browser, then full speed ahead. A third runner in this space would make the browser market a lot healthier than the current chrome/webkit and Firefox duopoly.
I’d rather have a good browser which took its time to get things right than a speed run one. Too much software is written like that, and the result is that most things are shit. What are we in such a hurry for? To get more time to work more? Fucking chill. Do things slowly and right. As a side thought, speed running seems like the wrong analogy for software. Speed runners in games are people who spend a ton of time d…
I think there's a balance to be struck between code quality and delivery speed.
GNU Hurd is a well known example where they spent a so much time on getting the code right that the project became irrelevant. And of course you made the case for erring on the "too much code too quickly" side
Re: This Month in Ladybird – April 2026
#153Too bad LadyBird is being translated to LLM generated Rust. It's nice that Rust is so beginner friendly but it would be nicer to have a pure C++ browser for the more experienced developers, to use as a basis for their projects like Chromium is used.
In my opinion, Chromium has already filled that market.
I actually think Ladybird should lean into Rust more so it can compete on speed but still stay safe and friendly to contributors (as hopefully the compiler will prevent most bugs).
My hope is this will help them compete with tenets of "safe, fast, contributor-friendly and NOT owned by a corporation"
Re: This Month in Ladybird – April 2026
#154Too bad LadyBird is being translated to LLM generated Rust. It's nice that Rust is so beginner friendly but it would be nicer to have a pure C++ browser for the more experienced developers, to use as a basis for their projects like Chromium is used.
I don't know, it's the third language they mention to introduce, first there was Swift, for whatever reason.
I think they should be first focusing on getting to a first stable version before re-writing parts of the browser.
Re: This Month in Ladybird – April 2026
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Didn't realize FUTO was connected to Eron Wolf, which connects to Curtis Yarvin, which connects to Palantir. Great...
What, do you sincerely believe Palantir is pulling the strings behind Ladybird? What is the accusation here? Everybody can be "connected" in some way or another, but it's meaningless.
I don't think Palantir is behind Ladybird, I just wish FUTO wasn't connected to Eron Wolf.
Re: This Month in Ladybird – April 2026
#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’d rather have a good browser which took its time to get things right than a speed run one. Too much software is written like that, and the result is that most things are shit. What are we in such a hurry for? To get more time to work more? Fucking chill. Do things slowly and right. As a side thought, speed running seems like the wrong analogy for software. Speed runners in games are people who spend a ton of time d…
I think there's a balance to be struck between code quality and delivery speed. GNU Hurd is a well known example where they spent a so much time on getting the code right that the project became irrelevant. And of course you made the case for erring on the "too much code too quickly" side
The comment I responded to talked of “speedrun” and “full speed ahead”. That’s the antithesis of balance.
The point you’re making is valid but has no bearing on the current conversation. GNU Hurd is also an extreme case, the overwhelming majority of software suffers more from being rushed than from being so slow it becomes irrelevant.
Re: This Month in Ladybird – April 2026
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How common is this that they would even care about it anyways? I've run Firefox exclusively for the last 2 decades and have never once run into a site that told me I needed to switch to Chromium for compatibility.
YouTube is crippled in Firefox, has been for years. It doesn’t force you to use Chrome, just a little nudge
I second that. Loading the pages takes longer before the video starts playing. I also regularly run into bot detection where no video will play at all until I log in.
Re: This Month in Ladybird – April 2026
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Evidence? Harsh accusation.
Here he is praising Charlie Kirk: https://x.com/awesomekling/status/1966456391146606806
Boosting the idea that white males are discriminated against in SV: https://x.com/awesomekling/status/1874518295350837401
Defending DHH: https://xcancel.com/awesomekling/status/1971287738268909576 (DHH himself has gone full-mask-off, and wrote a whole blog post complaining that there were immigrants in London: https://web.archive.org/web/20250925050154/https://world.hey...)
Kling has been pretty quiet so far himself, but he's keeping dubious company.
Re: This Month in Ladybird – April 2026
#159> GTK4 / libadwaita frontend Nice! Looks good. I prefer GTK UI/UX over Qt. Looking forward to seeing the development progress on that.
Same here. I also think having multiple front-ends is a good way to demonstrate the flexibility of the engine.
Re: This Month in Ladybird – April 2026
#160If you want to use no-Javascript browser as well, this browser prototype [0] is getting pretty good too. It's developed by Dioxus, a GUI framework in Rust, as part of its native renderer which seeks to create their own alternative to Skia, similar to Flutter, but it'll work on the web as well with HTML and CSS standards unlike Flutter web which is just a canvas. It's also a from scratch implementation, sort of, using…
This is great. I'm building a site that has JavaScript but is fully functional without it, this would be fun to see how it renders it. I use htmx, AlpineJS and Vanilla JS just for additional help for users with forms and search but works fine without it. Thanks for sharing this. I will recompile ladybird too. Last time it had made great progress but was no where near read for regular use.
There are now binaries available for Blitz: https://blitz.is/downloads
I used to disable Javascript by default but found that it was hard to actually get anything done on the Internet but maybe now we can use this sort of browser for pure informational websites and also save RAM. That is in fact what Dioxus Native is all about which wraps Blitz for a UI framework.