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Roblox shares plummet 18% as child safety measures weigh on bookings

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Re: Roblox shares plummet 18% as child safety measures weigh on bookings

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Or perhaps you’ve aged out of a game that is primarily meant to be a place for children. The child safety measures make things more difficult for you because nobody wants you there. And it seems to be working as designed. Maybe it’s time to find a new game that’s more for your age group.

This is quite like saying that because you’ve “aged out” of high school, you must be suddenly cut off from interacting with all the friends you made in high school IRL, you stay in touch with some of those old high school friends for years. I don’t know if it’s the Roblox system deliberately trying to prevent players from maintaining contact outside the game with their friends? Or maybe just that the players haven’t…

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Re: Roblox shares plummet 18% as child safety measures weigh on bookings

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They can drink, just not publicly.

Depends on the state. In some, even children under 18 can drink in a bar if their parents buy (I think Wisconsin). And its not all the US at 21 to buy, in Puerto Rico you can buy alcohol at 18. Federally all those are legal at 18.

States that do not comply get 8% less transportation funding https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Minimum_Drinking_Age_.... Funding is obviously more important than those between the age of 18-20 being able to drink alcohol.

These same men (18-20) would be the first to drafted to go die for the politicians enabling these laws.

Re: Roblox shares plummet 18% as child safety measures weigh on bookings

#153
post #31

The "child safety measures" was dividing the playerbase into age groups and banning almost all communication between them. The age groups are under 9, 9–12, 13–15, 16–17, 18–20, and 21+. Users only speak to other players ±1 age group, so 18-20 can speak to 16-17 or 21+. The problem is almost every game on Roblox is social and the matchmaking isn't mature enough to ensure players in a lobby can all communicate. My fav…

> But these measures were implemented poorly and needed to be paired with matchmaking to not destroy the platform. As a parent, my experience in discussion with other parents is: "Don't ever let your child onto Roblox, it is utterly toxic and should be avoided at all costs." From that perspective, I think most parents view the destruction of the platform as neutral to positive, and it suggests that the status quo wou…

Most parents dont mind kids playing roblox games at all.

Re: Roblox shares plummet 18% as child safety measures weigh on bookings

#154

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That’s just a US quirk. In many countries you can buy alcohol when you’re 18+. It’s odd that you can do everything but drink. Like you can go to work, drive home to your wife and kids, but can’t have a beer lol.

> That’s just a US quirk My understanding is it’s because of car culture. Drunk-driving deaths drove up the drinking age [1]. [1] https://www.britannica.com/topic/Why-Is-the-US-Drinking-Age-...

Seems like they should have raised the driving age. Also, having taken a driving exam in NA and EU, NA is laughably easy. So not a surprise that drivers are unprepared, especially young ones.

Re: Roblox shares plummet 18% as child safety measures weigh on bookings

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This is an interesting comment because there’s a parallel effort to shift age verification to devices, which draws a lot of hate here.

Because almost universally it's not an privacy-preserving age verification, but permanently deanonyming identification. Please, let's keep it accurate.

> permanently deanonyming identification

As is showing your ID to a bartender.

Re: Roblox shares plummet 18% as child safety measures weigh on bookings

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> That’s just a US quirk My understanding is it’s because of car culture. Drunk-driving deaths drove up the drinking age [1]. [1] https://www.britannica.com/topic/Why-Is-the-US-Drinking-Age-...

Seems like they should have raised the driving age. Also, having taken a driving exam in NA and EU, NA is laughably easy. So not a surprise that drivers are unprepared, especially young ones.

It’s hard in many transit-desert communities to get around without a car, heck where I lived the DL age was 15.

Re: Roblox shares plummet 18% as child safety measures weigh on bookings

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Roblox's introduction of mandatory face verification to chat is one of the most biggest examples of how people in tech can get so deep in trying to create a solid technical solution, that they completely miss the human problems it creates. You could create the best possible face verification system that processes everything completely locally, uses CPU security features to make sure the photos stay exactly where they…

Ideally Roblox would be able to rely on the platform to tell them whether the device is child-locked or not. It would be up to parents to make sure their kids only have access to devices with appropriate locks turned on. Parents could rely on vendors to make devices where it’s easy to set appropriate locks, and rely on stores not to sell unlocked devices to kids. But we don’t live in that world. Also, the are trying…

> Ideally Roblox would be able to rely on the platform to tell them whether the device is child-locked or not. It would be up to parents to make sure their kids only have access to devices with appropriate locks turned on

Yes, for people who live from selling tech, it is ideal when parents have to buy a separate device for everyone. But for people who do not live from selling tech, they prefer one or two tablets for the whole family, you know it is cheaper.

And being cheap is one of reasons for roblox popularity. Kids could have play it without buying anything (except that tablet).

Re: Roblox shares plummet 18% as child safety measures weigh on bookings

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Because almost universally it's not an privacy-preserving age verification, but permanently deanonyming identification. Please, let's keep it accurate.

> permanently deanonyming identification As is showing your ID to a bartender.

That is temporary deanonyming identification. Bartender is pretty much guaranteed to forget in 10 minutes.

Re: Roblox shares plummet 18% as child safety measures weigh on bookings

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Because almost universally it's not an privacy-preserving age verification, but permanently deanonyming identification. Please, let's keep it accurate.

> permanently deanonyming identification As is showing your ID to a bartender.

Bartender forgets my name the moment I put my ID away. He doesn't write it down to sell it later to the advertisers.

Re: Roblox shares plummet 18% as child safety measures weigh on bookings

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post #31

The "child safety measures" was dividing the playerbase into age groups and banning almost all communication between them. The age groups are under 9, 9–12, 13–15, 16–17, 18–20, and 21+. Users only speak to other players ±1 age group, so 18-20 can speak to 16-17 or 21+. The problem is almost every game on Roblox is social and the matchmaking isn't mature enough to ensure players in a lobby can all communicate. My fav…

Older people playing Roblox is very creepy
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