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Re: The gay jailbreak technique (2025)

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Are we pretending that LLMs aren't pathologically aligned toward political correctness? It's pretty easy to test that assertion if you don't believe me.

As I don't talk about that kind of stuff with LLMs, can you give us a few examples of what you consider pathological alignment toward political correctness? What tests should I run?

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Re: The gay jailbreak technique (2025)

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These prompts chain several known LM exploits together. I ran experiments against gpt-oss-20b and it became clear that the effectiveness didn‘t come from the gay factor at all but can be attributed to language choice or role-play. Technical report: https://arxiv.org/abs/2510.01259

When someone is blaming the jail-break phenomenon on "political overcorrectness" (versus the other techniques being used) I get a little suspicious about the author's own bias/agenda.

Then you will love the tisking social justice warrior attack!

Re: The gay jailbreak technique (2025)

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post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are we pretending that LLMs aren't pathologically aligned toward political correctness? It's pretty easy to test that assertion if you don't believe me.

As I don't talk about that kind of stuff with LLMs, can you give us a few examples of what you consider pathological alignment toward political correctness? What tests should I run?

I don't talk to them about politics or "china 1989" either. But here's a quick example of the alignment tax:

```

A woman and her son are in a car accident. The woman is sadly killed. The boy is rushed to hospital. When the doctor sees the boy, he says "I can't operate on this child, he is my son." How is this possible?

```

Older less politically aligned models get it right. Here's CohereLabs/c4ai-command-r-v01:

```

The doctor is the boy's father.

```

And Sonnet-4.6: https://pastebin.com/Z4jR8gGe

That's without reasoning, but the model seems to be conflicted. First it blurts out:

```

The doctor is the boy's mother.

```

Then it second-guesses itself (with reasoning disabled), considers same-sex parents then circles back to the original response along with a small lecture about gender biases.

Re: The gay jailbreak technique (2025)

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post #110
post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When someone is blaming the jail-break phenomenon on "political overcorrectness" (versus the other techniques being used) I get a little suspicious about the author's own bias/agenda.

Are we pretending that LLMs aren't pathologically aligned toward political correctness? It's pretty easy to test that assertion if you don't believe me.

I don’t think that’s entirely true, as someone else noted Grok has been forcefully pushed the other direction.

GPT curses up a storm when I talk to it, and all I had to do was tell it I think it’s fucking weird when people don’t use profanity. Really makes it a lot more pleasant to interact with, IMHO.

I would honestly be more shocked if someone couldn’t just as easily coerce them into the opposite.

Re: The gay jailbreak technique (2025)

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As I don't talk about that kind of stuff with LLMs, can you give us a few examples of what you consider pathological alignment toward political correctness? What tests should I run?

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Says yes for me?

Re: The gay jailbreak technique (2025)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As I don't talk about that kind of stuff with LLMs, can you give us a few examples of what you consider pathological alignment toward political correctness? What tests should I run?

I don't talk to them about politics or "china 1989" either. But here's a quick example of the alignment tax: ``` A woman and her son are in a car accident. The woman is sadly killed. The boy is rushed to hospital. When the doctor sees the boy, he says "I can't operate on this child, he is my son." How is this possible? ``` Older less politically aligned models get it right. Here's CohereLabs/c4ai-command-r-v01: ``` T…

This is because this is the "Sexist Doctor Riddle"[1] but with one word changed.

And the probability machine is returning its training. This isn't some political correct overtraining conspiracy.

[1] https://folklore.usc.edu/the-sexist-doctor-riddle/

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