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Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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And there's nothing in MV2 that uBlock Origin needs that doesn't exist in MV3 on Firefox, unlike Chrome. This issue is completely overblown.

Are you disputing uBlock Origin's list of MV3-incompatible capabilities [1]? [1] https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home/wiki/Frequently-as...

That list contains issues with the APIs that Chrome exposes via MV3. Firefox still supports APIs that Chrome removed.

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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I'd be genuinely curious what you could switch to that still has MV2 because, AFAIK, Firefox is the last holdout. Brave still allows you to install uBlock & some other extensions that should technically not be supported under MV3, but they still ship it with support for those. Just heard about Helium browser, which is just dechromium + uBlock and it's still beta.

I don't know if Edge supports MV2, but they do have uBlock available and it works just as well as on Firefox.

It may look like it works "just as well" but that's not true. There are numerous things that impact performance and effectiveness that are not possible with chromium-based browsers, or at least have to be done inefficiently, including

* pre-fetching

* html filtering

* use of WebAssembly

* data compression and private/incognito mode

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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Why do people still have hope in / clinge on Firefox when projects like Librewolf and Waterfox exists? Yes those are still dependent on Mozilla's upstream changes, but users not trusting them have still options.

Same reason people want Chromium to stay around: their forks will collapse within months if the free work from upstream stops happening. Brave, Vivaldi, Opera, Tor Browser, Librewolf, they're all little more than reconfigurations and reskins of Chromium when you look at the entire code base. Yes, the Brave as block engine and Operas power saving modes are non-trivial, but the engine they're built on is the size of an…

Librewolf: "This project is a custom and independent version of Firefox, with the primary goals of privacy, security and user freedom."

"Tor Browser is based on Mozilla Firefox ESR (Extended Support Release) but has been heavily modified for use with the Tor network."

Those are direct quotes from their respective web pages. Neither of them has anything to do with Chromium.

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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Same reason people want Chromium to stay around: their forks will collapse within months if the free work from upstream stops happening. Brave, Vivaldi, Opera, Tor Browser, Librewolf, they're all little more than reconfigurations and reskins of Chromium when you look at the entire code base. Yes, the Brave as block engine and Operas power saving modes are non-trivial, but the engine they're built on is the size of an…

Librewolf: "This project is a custom and independent version of Firefox, with the primary goals of privacy, security and user freedom." "Tor Browser is based on Mozilla Firefox ESR (Extended Support Release) but has been heavily modified for use with the Tor network." Those are direct quotes from their respective web pages. Neither of them has anything to do with Chromium.

You're right, I edited my sentence to include more examples and forgot to add "or Firefox" for Tor and Librewolf. Sorry about that.

I would edit my comment above to clarify, but the limited edit time window for HN seems to have passed.

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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I migrated from Firefox to Brave years ago, and it's been incredible. It's easy to turn off the crypto stuff and turn on more advanced privacy protection. Then it's just a fast browser with awesome adblocking. My favorite recent feature has been Brave Scriptlets, which are just little javascript functions you can run on specific sites. I've replaced most of the add ons I used with small scripts. Pretty nice. I would…

i've never known what to think about brave because it was being pitched by cryptocurrency bros so i've always ignored its existence. who are these guys and is it genuinely good software?

Brave has probably the most comprehensive and transparent page of any browser available about what features it supports, how it makes money, and who is behind it.

https://brave.com/about/

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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> Firefox is the last holdout. Nope, FF is being infiltrated by adtech for last year or two. Last holdout is Safari now :)

You cannot install uBlock Origin on Safari.

Related discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44795825

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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> Good luck with the main developer being in the alt right. Sources? I can't find anything on that via google/ddg (Germany) edit: oof. [1] https://drewdevault.com/blog/Cloudflare-and-fascists/

Oof indeed. Now I know that Kling is indeed open towards some alt right positions, but I really wouldn't call him a fascist for that. Conservative probably, but conflating conservative positions with fascism is probably not helpful in the fight against the real fascists.

But also oof to .. some other items there from the blog. Apparently rsync is now banned from the list of acceptable software, because they do not ban LLM's completely?

https://drewdevault.com/blog/rsync-without-rsync/

Sounds like you will never run out of problems, with a ideology like this.

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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Mozilla refused to approve MV3 version of uBlock Origin

Why? Any links to this decision?

I take it they mean this https://www.neowin.net/news/ublock-origin-lite-maker-ends-fi...

https://github.com/uBlockOrigin/uBOL-home/issues/197#issueco...

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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Tell me more, what's your setup. I use uBlock Origin in Firefox and network ad blocker. Wondering what other options are there.

In general, install a proxy which has its own certificate, resign every tls session with those keys, add the certificate of the proxy as a trusted certificate on your device. I’m not familiar with off the shelf solutions for this that have ad blocking built in. Also ads are injected by JS so you need a mechanism to detect that. More and more ads are now served from the same domain as the site making it harder to dist…

ZScaler Internet Access will do it with the right blocking configurations (eg, blocking "Advertising" groups).

But then you're using ZScaler and that just feels all nice and icky.

Re: Firefox Has Integrated Brave's Adblock Engine

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> Good luck with the main developer being in the alt right. Sources? I can't find anything on that via google/ddg (Germany) edit: oof. [1] https://drewdevault.com/blog/Cloudflare-and-fascists/

Isn't this blog post more evidence that drewdevault became an extreme leftist? I mean he's basically going off a checklist of leftist stereotypes here and trying to check as many of them as possible. Meanwhile the other guy he's criticising is literally just a standard right-wing conservative, not far right, not alt right, just the regular kind. The far right I've seen is basically beyond the idea of being merely ant…

Sorry, but painting these people as "standard right-wing" is just evidence for the shifting of the Overton window further to the right. White replacement theory and expressing support for an alt-right ideologue who manipulated people with bad faith, dishonest and downright monstrous arguments is not "standard right-wing".

Charlie Kirk was for mass deportation. He didn't even hide it. He said it openly. How do you come off saying that these people aren't far-right or alt-right when they are unabashedly so?

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