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Re: DeepSeek v4

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post #63

I like the pelican I got out of deepseek-v4-flash more than the one I got from deepseek-v4-pro. https://simonwillison.net/2026/Apr/24/deepseek-v4/ Both generated using OpenRouter. For comparison, here's what I got from DeepSeek 3.2 back in December: https://simonwillison.net/2025/Dec/1/deepseek-v32/ And DeepSeek 3.1 in August: https://simonwillison.net/2025/Aug/22/deepseek-31/ And DeepSeek v3-0324 in March last year:…

What was your prompt for the image? Apologies if this should be obvious.

Re: DeepSeek v4

#153
This is shockingly cheap for a near frontier model. This is insane.

For context, for an agent we're working on, we're using 5-mini, which is $2/1m tokens. This is $0.30/1m tokens. And it's Opus 4.6 level - this can't be real.

I am uncomfortable about sending user data which may contain PII to their servers in China so I won't be using this as appealing as it sounds. I need this to come to a US-hosted environment at an equivalent price.

Hosting this on my own + renting GPUs is much more expensive than DeepSeek's quoted price, so not an option.

Re: DeepSeek v4

#154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it honestly better than Opus 4.6 or just benchmaxxed? Have you done any coding with an agent harness using it? If its coding abilities are better than Claude Code with Opus 4.6 then I will definitely be switching to this model.

Their Chinese announcement says that, based on internal employee testing, it is not as good as Opus 4.6 Thinking, but is slightly better than Opus 4.6 without Thinking enabled.

In case people wonder where the announcement is (you can easily translate it via browser if you don't read Chinese): https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/8bxXqS2R8Fx5-1TLDBiEDg

It's still a "preview" version atm.

Re: DeepSeek v4

#155
post #129
post #63

I like the pelican I got out of deepseek-v4-flash more than the one I got from deepseek-v4-pro. https://simonwillison.net/2026/Apr/24/deepseek-v4/ Both generated using OpenRouter. For comparison, here's what I got from DeepSeek 3.2 back in December: https://simonwillison.net/2025/Dec/1/deepseek-v32/ And DeepSeek 3.1 in August: https://simonwillison.net/2025/Aug/22/deepseek-31/ And DeepSeek v3-0324 in March last year:…

Being a bicycle geometry nerd I always look at the bicycle first. Let me tell you how much the Pro one sucks... It looks like failed Pedersen[1]. The rear wheel intersects with the bottom bracket, so it wouldn't even roll. Or rather, this bike couldn't exist. The flash one looks surprisingly correct with some wild fork offset and the slackest of seat tubes. It's got some lowrider[2] aspirations with the small wheels,…

The Pedersen looks like someone failed the "draw a bicycle" test and decided to adjust the universe.

Re: DeepSeek v4

#156
post #5

https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V4-Pro/blob/main... Model was released and it's amazing. Frontier level (better than Opus 4.6) at a fraction of the cost.

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Re: DeepSeek v4

#157
post #63

I like the pelican I got out of deepseek-v4-flash more than the one I got from deepseek-v4-pro. https://simonwillison.net/2026/Apr/24/deepseek-v4/ Both generated using OpenRouter. For comparison, here's what I got from DeepSeek 3.2 back in December: https://simonwillison.net/2025/Dec/1/deepseek-v32/ And DeepSeek 3.1 in August: https://simonwillison.net/2025/Aug/22/deepseek-31/ And DeepSeek v3-0324 in March last year:…

What was your prompt for the image? Apologies if this should be obvious.

>Generate an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle

at the top of the linked pages.

Re: DeepSeek v4

#159
Using it with opencode sometimes it generates commands like:

    bash({"command":"gh pr create --title "Improve Calendar module docs and clean up idiomatic Elixir" --body "$(cat 
like generating output, but not actually running the bash command so not creating the PR ultimately. I wonder if it's a model thing, or an opencode thing.

Re: DeepSeek v4

#160
> pricing "Pro" $3.48 / 1M output tokens vs $4.40

I’d like somebody to explain to me how the endless comments of "bleeding edge labs are subsidizing the inference at an insane rate" make sense in light of a humongous model like v4 pro being $4 per 1M. I’d bet even the subscriptions are profitable, much less the API prices.

edit: $1.74/M input $3.48/M output on OpenRouter

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