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FBI looks into dead or missing scientists tied to NASA, Blue Origin, SpaceX

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Re: FBI looks into dead or missing scientists tied to NASA, Blue Origin, SpaceX

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The three companies mentioned have together maybe up to 50k employees (quick internet search, don't quote me on that). 11 of them (various roles, some out of the game for years) dying or going missing over many years in a country with a pretty high criminality and suicide rates rates doesn't sound very surprising.

Out of 50k people? These specific of backgrounds and scenarios of their death/disappearence? No. That is surprising. Any statistics you'd find about the rates of any one or more of these kinds of disappearances are going to be population level, averaged out over groups that are much higher risk and therefore skew the average rates to seem higher than their priors actually dictate for many sub populations, eg, working…

> No. That is surprising.

I'm genuinely curious if you found any data to support it especially when you add JPL, Los Alamos National Laboratory, MIT, Caltech, and the Kansas City National Security Campus to the list, over four years.

And what puts an even bigger question mark on the whole thing is that the FBI embarked on this whole thing after being asked by members of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform when they read about it in the newspaper. How critical are these people and how surprising their final fate if the US needs a tabloid to ring the alarm?

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Struggling to tell if you’re trolling, or just often on a good one at this hour, based on your other comments. Anyway, did you fix the hiccups?

Theres a lot of awesome fixes to hiccups that actually work if you do them right. One thing I've learned over the years is that most problems have an obvious fix that some people figured out ages ago and the reason you're late to the party of knowing is that after everyone else figured it out they decided not to tell you because then they could make a buck off of selling you the solution. Applies to so many things in…

So…did you fix them?!

Still meandering without contribution, a bit.

Re: FBI looks into dead or missing scientists tied to NASA, Blue Origin, SpaceX

#153

11 disappearances over 4 years and 4 states : - 1 rocket scientist lost while hiking - 1 astrophysicist killed at home by someone arrested a few months before at his home with a gun - 1 physicist in another field killed without cause of death made public - 1 engineer in instrumentation killed also without the cause made public - 1 schizophrenic crank woman died by suicide - 1 plasma and nuclear scientist killed at ho…

Yeah, Devil's Triangle level of coincidence.

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Suicide by gun isn't uncommon either.

It is probably more uncommon that they leave by foot in New Mexico - I mean where are some 60-year old going to go by foot and shot themselves without their bodies being found.

I postulate they simply didn't want to be found at home.

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Once I saw “James Comer” I knew I could ignore this.

Yeah. Even without that it feels like one of those things where people see something that looks fishy, but given the large number of potential people involved, it's not actually weird at all. But Comer... oof, it's hard to take seriously anything he focuses on. But who knows? Broken clocks, twice a day, etc.

A clock with no hands though?

;-)

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#156

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uhh .. the desert?

On the other hand, if you were non-suicidal and going for a walk in the desert, you might take a gun, to protect you from rattlesnakes, coyotes, javalinas... (or are javalinas just an Arizona thing?)

I might take a gun and some water, but point taken!

Re: FBI looks into dead or missing scientists tied to NASA, Blue Origin, SpaceX

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> McCasland, 68, disappeared from his Albuquerque home on Feb. 27 of this year, leaving on foot with only a .38 caliber revolver. [...] Government contractor Steven Garcia, [...] disappeared from Albuquerque in August 2025, last seen on surveillance footage leaving on foot with a handgun. Not american, so I can't judge if this is a common thing or irregular, but both were last seen carrying firearms as if they'd be t…

Retired USAF Major General McCasland disappearing from his house is probably the most serious. He was the commander of the Air Force Research Lab (AFRL) at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base. This would have given him direct oversight of all of the Air Force's most sensitive technology for decades. His intelligence value to a hostile adversary, even retired, is incalculable. He was an avid hiker and biker in his neighbo…

> Again, why wasn't the DoD tasked to find him at all costs on the same day he went missing, given his knowledge of the Air Force's most sensitive technologies?

They know where he is and we (the public) don't have a need to know where he is?

My personal theory is: He's offworld with the other non-terrestrial officers Gary McKinnon found :)

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And how would you be able to publicly verify the competing alternate sources and the smoking gun? It's no different than the situation with old media, except there's more noise and disinformation, and everything is easier to fake. Unless you personally are physically there with whatever necessary field expertise exists to run experiments or interrogate witnesses, you wind up having to trust somebody either way. I mea…

Being able to see the evidince presented by the alternatives, the degree to which they're grasping at straws, the scope of their criticism, etc. you can get a handle on the general degree of legitimacy of the original reporting. When some source says something and backs it up with numbers and everyone on the other side attacks the conclusion but not the numbers that says something about the numbers.

I think you're making the mistake of assuming the world works like an internet forum. You aren't going to be able to judge reality on the basis of rhetorical tricks or logical contradiction. Your implicit assumption that if "everyone on the other side attacks the conclusion but not the numbers" the numbers must be correct first assumes only two sides, and second doesn't actually say anything about "the numbers," only your perception of one side over the other.

Everyone who's been taken in by conspiracy theory and misinformation already thinks this way and it's why they'll believe the world is flat and the sky is held up by Nephilim and anyone who says otherwise is just attacking them and obviously not taking the "evidence" into account. The end result of this kind of thinking just winds up reinforcing your biases because in essence it's just vibes.

Re: FBI looks into dead or missing scientists tied to NASA, Blue Origin, SpaceX

#159

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uhh .. the desert?

On the other hand, if you were non-suicidal and going for a walk in the desert, you might take a gun, to protect you from rattlesnakes, coyotes, javalinas... (or are javalinas just an Arizona thing?)

Taking a gun to protect from rattlesnakes? Why not a big stick?

Re: FBI looks into dead or missing scientists tied to NASA, Blue Origin, SpaceX

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One more addition to the conspiracy theories: The frequency of fireballs in our planet’s skies seemed to grow in recent months. NASA and other meteor experts can’t agree on what explains it. ... In response to growing public interest, a NASA public affairs official said in a blog post at the end of March, “While it may seem like meteor reports and sightings have been more frequent recently, it is not out of the ordin…

Can you, please, also quote how this sightings are tallied? Is that an astronomical observation by same people or is that based on self-reporting citizens? "People see more stuff in the sky" is a common sign for people getting more anxious about attacks from the sky. To my knowledge, first UFO reporting waves happened during cold war when people started to get paranoid about soviet spying.

They might be counting sightings over Israel, Iran, and GCC countries.

I have seen many social media videos of fireballs in the sky in the last few months.

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