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Re: Another Day Has Come

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Re: Another Day Has Come

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Cook was an able steward of Apple. Under his leadership the hardware side continued to iteratively improve nicely. Apple Silicon is good stuff. I am firmly embedded in the entire Apple ecosystem and have no reason to leave. I do wish Apple used some of its massive cash hoard and market power to do better in software. The iPad remains my favorite form factor to use in lots of my day but Apple never invested in killer…

> The iPad remains my favorite form factor to use in lots of my day but Apple never invested in killer app software optimized for it.

Apple doesn't received much credit for making iPhoto for iPad back in 2012 (https://www.macrumors.com/2012/03/07/apple-launches-iphoto-f...), or more recently Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro. I think they really have invested in building pro software for iPads, probably on the order of millions of dollars, less for the vanishingly small segments of their user base but to make the case that the platform can be used for serious work.

The problem though is that the platform itself creates friction compared to macOS that, even at the best of times, makes the user at least slightly less productive. So I can't imagine myself picking up an iPad to do any actual creative work.

Not to mention the best-in-class keyboard cases, over-engineered stylus, mouse support, multitasking support, and on and on. It almost seems desperate that they keep trying to find "the thing" to crack this problem.

Re: Another Day Has Come

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As an outsider I still can't believe anybody gets this emotional about Apple.

I snicker at it as well, but then I also get emotional when people mention SGI, Commodore, Nintendo, SEGA.. so, there's that. Key difference, from my angle, is mostly the lack of people idols in the latter vs the former. Yes, there _are_ key people, but emphasis is more on products they made. Who knows. Interesting phenomenon in any case.

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Re: Another Day Has Come

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

By "one action" you mean the systematic war against 3rd party app stores and payments in the EU and elsewhere? By actions like this they made them so unappealing they basically destroyed any chance of success. Very anti-competitive and nasty behaviour, I think.

That's a perfectly reasonable opinion for you to have.

It is. We need to stop holding up these mortal men as saviors, especially those that have no qualms working with tyrants across the globe. The only reason Apple cares about a11y is due to being legally compelled to by the ADA. Maybe uphold the US activists that fought to make accessibility a thing the people of the United States cares about and enshrined into law (fun fact, this went on to inspire other countries to pass ADA like legislation as well).

Also a11y lawsuits are not only a great way to make an easy $10k a pop, it's a even better way to organize with your local legal teams. They always like easy money IME.

Oh don't forget that you can get sued for the same violation multiple times by different people at once, nice way to collect some money and if you want to attack big tech.

Re: Another Day Has Come

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> MacOS VoiceOver is quite a disaster I am curious as to why (definitely not arguing, but I’m not blind, and only use it for testing). I write (Apple) apps to be accessible. I would be grateful for guidance in making them as useful as possible.

It is just random bugs. Switching punctuation schemes. The terminal doesn't read very well, VoiceOver loves to say "not responding" in Safari and locks up, live regions don't always read correctly, quick nav (basically automatically holding down the voiceover modifier so you can more quickly use navigate through the screen) adds random delay to each key press, it's just lots and lots and lots of small issues like thi…

Thanks!

I do my best to make my apps accessible, so feedback like this helps.

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