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Re: The Onion to Take over InfoWars

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Post by austin-cheney » Thu, Apr 23, 2026, 2:46 PM UTC

SV_BubbleTime wrote: post #122

austin-cheney wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is absurdly large and deliberately so. First of all this was a class action suit representing 22 plaintiffs. Secondly, the number was large to punish the defendant for continuously disrespecting the count with bad repeated behavior. Third, there was no defense because the defendant failed to work with the court resulting in a summary judgment.

>deliberately so I’m not entertained that the court is playing an unrealistic and hyberbolic game. I know, I’m a weirdo that wants to see realism and pragmatism in the court systems even if the defendant is a real asshole.

This is a pragmatic result. The defendant had every opportunity to raise a valid defense. Instead they ignored the court and were a continual harassing ass to the plaintiffs. One way to punish bad behavior is to increase the level of punishment proportional to the harm inflicted.

This punishment reflects not just the conduct at question by the law suit, but also the conduct during the law suit.

Re: The Onion to Take over InfoWars

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Post by Rover222 » Thu, Apr 23, 2026, 2:47 PM UTC

dml2135 wrote: post #114

Rover222 wrote: post #103

Not the direct point of this thread, but this being a nytimes link... I still can't believe the way those reporters giggled their way through the Hasan Piker interview the other day. That is guy is poison, but since he align with their views, it's all just rosy and silly to promote killing people on the other side of the political spectrum.

Which Hasan Piker interview was this? The only one I saw was about shoplifting.

That one. They asked if the murder of the United CEO was justified because he committed "social murder".

Piker is the left equivalent of Charlie Kirk - saying outrageous things for attention, but he has constantly called for violence, while Kirk never did.

Re: The Onion to Take over InfoWars

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Post by declan_roberts » Thu, Apr 23, 2026, 2:48 PM UTC

sophacles wrote: post #96

mikeodds wrote: post #25

Maybe I’m out of touch, but doesn’t a $1.4b dollar settlement for this seem rather… large?

No, it doesn't seem rather large. The man made a fortune destroying the reputations of some people, and he did so by (provably) intentionally lying about them, without their consent and with nothing paid to them. They deserve every peny of that - he stole their reputations and as with all theft, reparations are logical. In addition he grew his following with those lies, and that following will continue to give him mo…

I don't understand. Nothing stopping him from lying publicly about anybody or anything. It's not like he loses his 1st amendment card or something.

The only lesson he's learned is to hire a better legal team in the future for civil (not criminal) suits.

Re: The Onion to Take over InfoWars

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Post by lesuorac » Thu, Apr 23, 2026, 2:49 PM UTC

ourmandave wrote: post #85

lesuorac wrote: post #74

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Literally no principal involved. Tucker will take any position for money see his entire career! Plus the guy was advocating the administration should attack Iran for attempting to assassinate trump.

I dunno, he's pretty consistent as a white nationalist. Having to take unscheduled vacations from Fox News over some of his more racist comments.

> I dunno, he's pretty consistent as a white nationalist.

> ... Fox News ...

Sure but can you link some white nationalist clips when he was the host of Crossfire [1] for 5 years?

Like he's just not principled. If he were to re-join Fox News and Fox were to pivot to being a competitor to BET [2] his comments would change immediately.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossfire_(American_TV_program...

[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BET

Re: The Onion to Take over InfoWars

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Post by cogman10 » Thu, Apr 23, 2026, 2:51 PM UTC

declan_roberts wrote: post #146

cogman10 wrote: post #142

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> I’m not entertained that the court is playing an unrealistic and hyberbolic game. They did not. Jones was given years and dozens of opportunities to comply. He defaulted in 2 cases because he failed to comply in both cases. He was also defaulted after being warned he'd be defaulted. The cases literally started in 2018 and resolved in 2022. The reason they dragged out for so long is primarily due to Jones not comply…

His lawyers were terrible. Nobody arguing otherwise on that point. Jones wasn't personally directing the legal strategy, he was doing the same thing you'd do.

> Jones wasn't personally directing the legal strategy, he was doing the same thing you'd do.

Yes he was. Jones didn't have 1 set of lawyers from start to finish on the cases. He went through about 20 different lawyers in both cases.

That doesn't happen if a client isn't personally directing the lawyers.

His strategy was very clearly to bring in new lawyers at each depo that didn't comply with the court order. When challenged, the lawyers would say "Oh, sorry, it's my first day on this case. We'll be sure to bring it next time".

He did the same thing with the corporate representatives. He had at least 3 different people show up as the corporate representative that were supposed to bring the finances. None of them complied.

Re: The Onion to Take over InfoWars

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Post by tzs » Thu, Apr 23, 2026, 2:52 PM UTC

someguyiguess wrote: post #104

tsimionescu wrote: post #64

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This is not a case about Sandy Hook the event - it is a defamation case by the victims of that event, that Alex Jones directly attacked. This is the biggest difference - no one is claiming that all of the people who lost their loved ones in the 9/11 attacks were actually actors paid to pretend that they were grieving for their parents and children and friends. No one was encouraged to personally attack said victims a…

That’s sounds like a first amendment violation with more steps.

Suppose I decide to do some target shooting in my yard and set up a target. One of my shots misses and goes past the target and hits your house where it causes a surprising amount of damage and you sue me.

Would you say that if a court allows that and awards you damages it is a violation of my 2nd Amendment rights with more steps?

Re: The Onion to Take over InfoWars

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Post by saltyoldman » Thu, Apr 23, 2026, 2:52 PM UTC

rexpop wrote: post #145

tnelsond4 wrote: post #125

Organizations love to run controlled opposition. Just came out that the Southern poverty law center has been funding the KKK of all things. https://www.justice.gov/usao-mdal/pr/federal-grand-jury-char...

It has just been alleged .

There is very compelling evidence. Bank transfers.

Re: The Onion to Take over InfoWars

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Post by declan_roberts » Thu, Apr 23, 2026, 2:54 PM UTC

solfox wrote: post #112

It seems strange to me that our laws allow someone to declare personal bankruptcy to avoid paying on liabilities, while somehow maintaining interests in other companies… resulting in that weird situation where another of his companies tries to buy the “bankrupt” company? (If you didn’t read the article, the only other bidder against the Onion was one of Alex’s own companies)

Maybe we should repeal the first amendment?

Re: The Onion to Take over InfoWars

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Post by declan_roberts » Thu, Apr 23, 2026, 2:58 PM UTC

cogman10 wrote: post #155

declan_roberts wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

His lawyers were terrible. Nobody arguing otherwise on that point. Jones wasn't personally directing the legal strategy, he was doing the same thing you'd do.

> Jones wasn't personally directing the legal strategy, he was doing the same thing you'd do. Yes he was. Jones didn't have 1 set of lawyers from start to finish on the cases. He went through about 20 different lawyers in both cases. That doesn't happen if a client isn't personally directing the lawyers. His strategy was very clearly to bring in new lawyers at each depo that didn't comply with the court order. When c…

His lawyers were objectively bad. You'd bring in a new team and fire them also.

Example: they sent a copy of his cell phone to the prosecuting attorney on accident and didn't request it back in time, so 2 years of his text messages were used against him.

Re: The Onion to Take over InfoWars

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Post by jandrese » Thu, Apr 23, 2026, 2:59 PM UTC

afavour wrote: post #143

z2 wrote: post #121

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No joke, I use Facebook every year or so to access the marketplace and at the time my feed was roughly half rage-bait, and the other half being what I can only describe as AI-generated almost-pornography. Both had thousands of what looked like genuinely real interactions per post, mostly from developing country users.

I'm loathe to defend Facebook but most people's experience is not yours. The algorithm pushes content you're most likely to engage with, in your case it has nothing to go on so probably pushes whatever causes the most reaction in general.

No matter what you follow if FB thinks you are a man it's going to feed you those foreign near-porn shorts.

I'm not sure if it is just what escapes across national boundaries or if social media in other countries is just way more horny, but every time I see a post where the text has been auto-translated from a different language it is thirst trap content. This is true across multiple social media platforms. It's especially prevalent on X for example, especially as they seem to be trying to showcase their Grok translations or something.