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Israel escalates attacks on medics in Lebanon with deadly 'quadruple tap'

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Post by throway23423 »

The first time i saw this concept of the 'double-tap' - to target first-responders to the scene of an earlier strike - was in the movie,' The Hurt Locker' - where it was employed by some ISIS-tier insurgents using a VBIED disguised as an ambulance. Presumably this was intended to show the level of depravity of the terrorists. First time actually seeing this employed in the real world was last year when Israel did a double tap that killed multiple journalists working for reuters, AP, Al Jazeera, Middle East Eye and Quds News Network plus paramedics and medical staff *at a hospital*. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Nasser_Hospital_strikes

Now finding out this is essentially SOP for Israel and the United States (eg: the triple-tap strike at the Iranian girl's school where parents rushing to save their kids from the collapsed school were hit in the second and third strike), I wonder if the terrorists learnt this tactic from the US coalition or vice-versa.

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Post by dzhiurgis »

whatisthiseven wrote: post #71
dzhiurgis wrote: post #9

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Germany: 7.7 to 7.9 beds per 1,000 Japan: 12.6 to 13.0 beds per 1,000 Israel: 2.9 to 3.1 beds per 1,000 people USA: 2.3 to 2.4 beds per 1,000 people Egypt: 1.1 to 1.4 beds per 1,000 people OECD avg per capita: 4.2 per 1,000 people Lebanon: 1.0–1.2 beds per 1,000 people Palestine: 1.3 beds per 1,000 people Palestine did have way more before, in 2022, at 13 per 1000. That would indeed be high. Turns out that was purpos…

OECD average is 4.2 and hiding weapons in schools and hospitals is insurgency 101.

Naivety of you guys is staggering.

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Post by karim79 »

throway23423 wrote: post #151

The first time i saw this concept of the 'double-tap' - to target first-responders to the scene of an earlier strike - was in the movie,' The Hurt Locker' - where it was employed by some ISIS-tier insurgents using a VBIED disguised as an ambulance. Presumably this was intended to show the level of depravity of the terrorists. First time actually seeing this employed in the real world was last year when Israel did a d…

> I wonder if the terrorists learnt this technique from the US coalition or vice-versa.

Who are "the terrorists"?

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Post by nielsbot »

SilverElfin wrote: post #131
DaveFr wrote: post #74

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Nobody says this about any Islamic country

Yep, and this is the obvious dishonesty of the people who single out Israel. It’s one country with a Jewish culture, where non-Jewish people also prosper in large numbers. But there are MANY officially Islamic nations where there is a state religion, where laws and religion are mixed together, and where violence/oppression of minorities is normalized and welcomed. Not a single pro-Gaza or anti-Israel activist will ac…

What’s dishonest is your racist defense of a murderous and genocidal country that cynically uses Judaism as a shield for war crimes. You should really think deeply about how you’re conflating the Zionist state with the Jewish people… not sure a lot of them are in board with your project. There is no world in which a Jewish-supremacist state is righteous.

As for equal rights, it is to laugh. Israel is an apartheid state. Ask any expert in the subject.

Let’s talk about the racist death-penalty-for-Palestinians law that just passed to Ben Gvir drinking champagne and to celebratory prayers in the Knesset. Or what about the fact that gay people cannot legally marry? Or that protesting the genocide gets you brutally arrested. Not to mention the ghetto that Israel has turned Gaza into. (shame on the Zionists!) What about no right of return to the people who lived on the land that Israel stole and continues to steal? (let me guess: all in self defense!) It goes on and on.

Israel is indefensible. It should be dismantled.

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Post by nielsbot »

DaveFr wrote: post #74
nielsbot wrote: post #65

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The only way Zionism can be moral is if it abandons the idea of a Jewish supremacist nation.

Nobody says this about any Islamic country

Sure they do. But Zionists are the ones that profess that a Jewish-supremacist state is a good idea.

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Post by olivermuty »

SilverElfin wrote: post #130
4MOAisgoodenuf wrote: post #91

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When an “Islamic country” starts getting several billions of dollars in aid from the US and begins “quadruple tapping” civilians, then I suppose there will be some outrage. In the meantime, this outrage appears to be more based in the criminal conduct of a genocidal state than any religious amenity

How do you think Islam spread? Peacefully? Look at history. And look at Islamic texts that preach the subjugation and killing of anyone who isn’t Islamic. It’s much more of a supremacist culture than any other.

Yeah christians would never go crusading like that!

Hmmm, I wonder where the word «crusade» comes from though

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Post by wqaatwt »

22122 wrote: post #143
wqaatwt wrote: post #141

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They were second class citizens with limited rights (quite a bit like the people in the occupied West Bank for that matter..)

they were merchants and artisans part of an international diaspora spanning thousands of miles, it was really an economic role that they chose to assume. they weren't victims of a racist occupation like arabs in the west bank today. some would say that they were kicked out of their homeland so it wasn't really a choice but there's actually no evidence that this ever happened. for one thing, jews have always lived in…

> economic role that they chose to assume

The only choice they had which would have allowed them assume any other role was conversion to Islam.

> no evidence that this ever happened

There is obviously evidence and there several major Jewish or Samaritan revolts until the Romans lost Palestine in the 600s with the last revolt being quite brutal.

Of course the scale of expulsions, forced conversions and massacres is not really known but the region was almost certainly majority Christian by the time the Muslims got there

> there was a huge jewish diaspora before that revolt and even before the 1st century revolt

There is no strong evidence of that either (depending on how one defines “huge” of course)

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Post by walletdrainer »

LorenPechtel wrote: post #54
khaledh wrote: post #21

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You're using the term "terrorist" to describe people indigenous to the land that Israel stole. If you use logic, that makes Israel that terrorist group since they used violence to kick Palestinians out of their land and homes, not the other way around. Lookup the Jewish terrorist groups Irgu, Lehi, and Haganah. Lookup the assassination of Lord Moyne by Lehi and the 1946 Irgun bombing of the King David Hotel. The lead…

Hezbollah isn't in Israel, so any argument about what happened in Israel is irrelevant. And by far the primary cause of Palestinians leaving was Arab countries telling them to get out of the way of the coming invasion. And, well, when you refuse to agree to lay down arms is it really surprising you're not allowed back in? King David Hotel? You mean British military HQ? Who received and ignored the warning about the b…

> USS Liberty--ever consider how hard it is to identify ships from the air in a combat situation? Israel knew the ship claimed to be American, but they thought that was a ruse.

Everybody outside of the IDF PR department has accepted that Israel deliberately targeted USS Liberty.

The “misidentification” story was utterly unbelievable at the time, and remains so now. There are endless statements from top US national security officials directly calling the Israelis liars.

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Post by gizzlon »

SilverElfin wrote: post #130
4MOAisgoodenuf wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When an “Islamic country” starts getting several billions of dollars in aid from the US and begins “quadruple tapping” civilians, then I suppose there will be some outrage. In the meantime, this outrage appears to be more based in the criminal conduct of a genocidal state than any religious amenity

How do you think Islam spread? Peacefully? Look at history. And look at Islamic texts that preach the subjugation and killing of anyone who isn’t Islamic. It’s much more of a supremacist culture than any other.

The US this week invoked God when bombing people

Of course, Iran does to, but let's not pretend everything would be peaceful without Islam

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Post by perching_aix »

LorenPechtel wrote: post #51
perching_aix wrote: post #31

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To clarify, - I'm under no confusion about what they're insinuating, that's not the point (see that below) - I'm looking for their reply specifically It's relatively easy to accuse, and to make up some story. It's a lot harder to provide substance and formulate a compelling argument. Is the number of medical facilities really outstanding? Why does that suggest they're combatant hideouts? Which of them are, all? Why d…

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