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Re: Claude Opus 4.7

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For anyone who was wondering about Mythos release plans: > What we learn from the real-world deployment of these safeguards will help us work towards our eventual goal of a broad release of Mythos-class models.

Oh look it was too powerful to release, now it’s just a matter of safeguards. This story sounds a lot like GPT2.

My guess is that it is just too expensive to make generally available. Sounds similar to ChatGPT 4.5 which was too expensive to be practical.

Re: Claude Opus 4.7

#153
I wonder why computer use has taken a back seat. Seemed like it was a hot topic in 2024, but then sort of went obscure after CLI agents fully took over.

It would be interesting to see a company to try and train a computer use specific model, with an actually meaningful amount of compute directed at that. Seems like there's just been experiments built upon models trained for completely different stuff, instead of any of the companies that put out SotA models taking a real shot at it.

Re: Claude Opus 4.7

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Too late, personally after how bad 4.6 was the past week I was pushed to codex, which seems to mostly work at the same level from day to day. Just last night I was trying to get 4.6 to lookup how to do some simple tensor parallel work, and the agent used 0 web fetches and just hallucinated 17K very wrong tokens. Then the main agent decided to pretend to implement tp, and just copied the entire model to each node...

Funny because many people here were so confident that OpenAI is going to collapse because of how much compute they pre-ordered. But now it seems like it's a major strategic advantage. They're 2x'ing usage limits on Codex plans to steal CC customers and it seems to be working. I'm seeing a lot of goodwill for Codex and a ton of bad PR for CC. It seems like 90% of Claude's recent problems are strictly lack of compute r…

In hindsight, it is painfully clear that Antropic’s conservative investment strategy has them struggling with keeping up with demand and caused their profit margin to shrink significantly as last buyer of compute.

Re: Claude Opus 4.7

#156

I'm not sure how much I trust Anthropic recently. This coming right after a noticeable downgrade just makes me think Opus 4.7 is going to be the same Opus i was experiencing a few months ago rather than actual performance boost. Anthropic need to build back some trust and communicate throtelling/reasoning caps more clearly.

Usually they're hemorrhaging performance while training.

From that it's pretty likely they were training mythos for the last few weeks, and then distilling it to opus 4.7

Pure speculation of course, but would also explain the sudden performance gains for mythos - and why they're not releasing it to the general public (because it's the undistilled version which is too expensive to run)

Re: Claude Opus 4.7

#157

Quite a big improvement in coding benchmarks, doesn’t seem like progress is plateauing as some people predicted.

Some of the benchmarks went down, has that happened before?

Constantly. Minor revisions can easily "wobble" on benchmarks that the training didn't explicitly push them for.

Whether it's genuine loss of capability or just measurement noise is typically unclear.

Re: Claude Opus 4.7

#158

Too late, personally after how bad 4.6 was the past week I was pushed to codex, which seems to mostly work at the same level from day to day. Just last night I was trying to get 4.6 to lookup how to do some simple tensor parallel work, and the agent used 0 web fetches and just hallucinated 17K very wrong tokens. Then the main agent decided to pretend to implement tp, and just copied the entire model to each node...

Funny because many people here were so confident that OpenAI is going to collapse because of how much compute they pre-ordered. But now it seems like it's a major strategic advantage. They're 2x'ing usage limits on Codex plans to steal CC customers and it seems to be working. I'm seeing a lot of goodwill for Codex and a ton of bad PR for CC. It seems like 90% of Claude's recent problems are strictly lack of compute r…

Their top tier plan got a 3x limit boost. This has been the first week ever where I haven't run out of tokens.

Re: Claude Opus 4.7

#159

Not showing up in claude code by default on the latest version. Apparently this is how to set it: /model claude-opus-4-7 Coming from anthropic's support page, so hopefully they did't hallucinate the docs, cause the model name on claude code says: /model claude-opus-4-7 ⎿ Set model to Opus 4 what model are you? I'm Claude Opus 4 (model ID: claude-opus-4-7).

Thanks, but not working for me, and I'm on the $200 max plan

Edit: Not 30 seconds later, claude code took an update and now it works!

Re: Claude Opus 4.7

#160

Not showing up in claude code by default on the latest version. Apparently this is how to set it: /model claude-opus-4-7 Coming from anthropic's support page, so hopefully they did't hallucinate the docs, cause the model name on claude code says: /model claude-opus-4-7 ⎿ Set model to Opus 4 what model are you? I'm Claude Opus 4 (model ID: claude-opus-4-7).

/model claude-opus-4.7 ⎿ Model 'claude-opus-4.7' not found Just love that I'm paying $200 for models features they announce I can't use! Related features that were announced I have yet to be able to use: $ claude --enable-auto-mode auto mode is unavailable for your plan $ claude /memory Auto-dream: on · /dream to run Unknown skill: dream

I think that was a typo on my end, its "/model claude-opus-4-7" not "/model claude-opus-4.7"
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