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Re: WireGuard makes new Windows release following Microsoft signing resolution

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Post by j45 »

SturgeonsLaw wrote: post #62
sammy2255 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good to know everything was resolved, but did you ever find out why your signing account was suspended? That's not something you brush off as haha silly Microsoft..

Microsoft are saying it's because those accounts didn't undergo verification for the Windows Hardware Program https://www.theregister.com/2026/04/09/microsoft_dev_account...

If a provider wants to be in the identity business, I don't understand why it has to be tied to a piece of hardware.

Security and attribution is great, but the default assumption of everyone will sign up and do what we want doesn't work.

Re: WireGuard makes new Windows release following Microsoft signing resolution

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Post by [deleted] »

zx2c4 wrote: post #3

As I mentioned in the mailing list post, the Microsoft paperwork shuffling matter got dealt with rather quickly, following all the attention the HN thread from the other day got. And now we're finally out with an update! NT programming is a lot of fun, though this release was quite challenging, because of all of the toolchain updates. On the plus side, we got to remove pre-Win10 support -- https://lists.zx2c4.com/pip…

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Re: WireGuard makes new Windows release following Microsoft signing resolution

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Post by jstanley »

Barbing wrote: post #137
AnthonyMouse wrote: post #131

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At which point we're back to, why is Microsoft acting like a government and treating their users like property of the crown instead of autonomous adult human beings who should be free to choose what software they want on their own PC?

all five letters of that answer are in your username :)

So that narrows it down to about 300 possibilities. https://gist.github.com/jes/bbdad4c6e54ffa120f62cd443ded8d8f

Plausible candidates include "asset", "enemy", "homes", "mates", "moats", "money", "nasty", "state", "stunt".

Re: WireGuard makes new Windows release following Microsoft signing resolution

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Post by throwaway290 »

donmcronald wrote: post #121
everdrive wrote: post #83

An interesting point I don't think I've seen someone make -- people compare the LLM revolution to other technical revolutions. You don't need to worry about skill decay in the same way that you don't know how to bake bread from unprocessed wheat, or you don't know how to build a loom, etc. But local models aside (which no matter the protests from HN, will only be available to the technically savvy few) all of these L…

If they manage to build good memory systems, people will stop keeping personal docs and rely on the “AI” for everything. Imagine 20 years from now when people don’t even have copies of the recipe to bake bread and then you’ll see what the goal is.

And then in future if you try to build something to reverse the situation your coding llm becomes stupid and your psychologist llm recommends you some blue pills.

Re: WireGuard makes new Windows release following Microsoft signing resolution

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Post by LtdJorge »

SturgeonsLaw wrote: post #62
sammy2255 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good to know everything was resolved, but did you ever find out why your signing account was suspended? That's not something you brush off as haha silly Microsoft..

Microsoft are saying it's because those accounts didn't undergo verification for the Windows Hardware Program https://www.theregister.com/2026/04/09/microsoft_dev_account...

> No emails, no warnings, no humans – just bots, catch-22s, and a 60-day appeals queue

Hmmm

Re: WireGuard makes new Windows release following Microsoft signing resolution

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Post by Root_Denied »

golem14 wrote: post #97

Since the impact of the account is presumably known to Microsoft (through telemetry etc), they probably know when these accounts get turned off, and can mark them in case the owner comes back and tries recovery. Microsoft would not have to automatically and 100% correctly reinstate the account. The goal would be to get high level cases like this one in front of a knowledgable human before the locked account posts ang…

The reality is that unless and until the PR hit from failures like this impact their stock price or their bottom line, companies won't care to fix the processes that created them.

Re: WireGuard makes new Windows release following Microsoft signing resolution

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Post by m-s-y »

fsflover wrote: post #132
elcritch wrote: post #100

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It makes me think tech communities need to lobby for more laws to ensure fair access to platforms, app stores, etc. Be that at least side loading apps, etc. Otherwise we’ll eventually all get lost in the kafkaesque technocracies. Less for moral reading, but to keep from being squashed by the weight of tech.

This is why orgs like https://eff.org exist.

But eff isn’t going to come to my aid if it’s isn’t a big story, like wireguard. We’re all just arguing circularly around the fact that companies with massive footprints can and do operate in a manner where it’s assumed that zero access is the industry standard for “normal users”

Re: WireGuard makes new Windows release following Microsoft signing resolution

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Post by fsflover »

m-s-y wrote: post #158
fsflover wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why orgs like https://eff.org exist.

But eff isn’t going to come to my aid if it’s isn’t a big story, like wireguard. We’re all just arguing circularly around the fact that companies with massive footprints can and do operate in a manner where it’s assumed that zero access is the industry standard for “normal users”

I would still ask them, and even if they can't help, they fight for such rights for everyone.
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