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Old laptops in a colo as low cost servers

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Re: Old laptops in a colo as low cost servers

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The advantage of a laptop is exactly that you can easily host it at home, and own everything. I have one - with an UPS also holding the router and fiber optic and an external HDD. I'm actually working right now to version 2.0 which is a beefed up version - still used laptop (found a great deal on a lenovo P1), but slightly more expensive and I'm waiting on some parts to upgrade. Should be able to even hold the produc…

Do you not get memory errors without ECC RAM?

There are laptops with ECC RAM, but they are uncommon.

Otherwise, the effect of memory errors depends on the use case.

If the laptop or mini-PC is used as a router/firewall/Internet gateway, then memory errors are usually not important, because they would result in corrupted network packets that are likely to be detected at the endpoints of a network connection.

If the laptop or mini-PC is used as an e-mail server or a Web server, then a fraction of the memory errors may result in a stored file that becomes corrupted.

At the small amounts of memory typical for a laptop or mini-PC, unless the PC is many years old there should be no more than a few memory errors per year at most, and the majority of the errors might not result in file corruption, but sometimes they may cause weird behavior requiring a computer reboot.

Anecdotally, during the years I have seen on the Internet a non-negligible amount of big files, e.g. movies, which appear to have bit flips that are likely to have been caused by their hosting on servers without ECC memory. Fortunately, in movies a small number of bit flips will not cause severe quality degradation.

With more valuable data, one must use ECC memory to avoid such problems.

Re: Old laptops in a colo as low cost servers

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This seems very sketchy. Give us your laptop and we promise we won't keep it... > © 2024 CoLaptop. All rights reserved. Website copyright is out of date by two years... And the website has been online since then. https://crt.sh/?q=colaptop.pages.dev > Thank you for your interest. Please submit the form below and we'll get back to you within 2 working days. > - Team @ CoLaptop.com Also colaptop.com is not even registe…

Also, isn't this just a huge fire hazard of they actually do what they claim? Or will they remove the batteries from these old, continually plugged in, poorly cooled laptops?

Re: Old laptops in a colo as low cost servers

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€7/month is mad considering the hardware is my own.

€7/month is both too much and too little.

The cheapest USB KVM-over-IP costs about €50 - that's 8 months of colo fees gone.

Colo 'remote hands' in western countries can cost €120/hour, once all expenses and overheads are taken into account. Admittedly, that's for someone to drop what they're doing and rush to your sever. But getting that laptop unpacked, checked over, labelled, installed in a rack, associated to a customer account, powered up and working is going to cost 3 months of fees at least.

One laptop gets lost or damaged during shipping, or shows up mysteriously broken when the customer claims it worked when they sent it? That's a €200 device gone, 28 months of colo fees. You can argue your way out of it, but the guy doing the arguing is the €120/hour remote hands guy.

It'd be easy to lose money on this.

Re: Old laptops in a colo as low cost servers

#154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not about your battery, it’s the battery in all the other laptops that would have me concerned. Plenty of fire risk.

Not just the batteries. User supplied power bricks sounds like an incredibly bad idea at pretty much any scale.

Not sure why the comment above is downvoted, but I have been twice in the same room with somebody's power brick starting producing fumes while dying.

Re: Old laptops in a colo as low cost servers

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> Your laptop should be fully functional with a working power supply and either an ethernet port or USB port for connectivity. Age isn't a factor. We might modify your laptop to remove or power down the battery, wireless radios, etc. to ensure it can be used safely in the data center.

So they're going to open the laptop up and make hardware modifications to random laptops sent in? May as well have a VPS at that point.

A far better business offering would have been to offer pre-selected physical devices where such things are well known.

Re: Old laptops in a colo as low cost servers

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post #20

This seems very sketchy. Give us your laptop and we promise we won't keep it... > © 2024 CoLaptop. All rights reserved. Website copyright is out of date by two years... And the website has been online since then. https://crt.sh/?q=colaptop.pages.dev > Thank you for your interest. Please submit the form below and we'll get back to you within 2 working days. > - Team @ CoLaptop.com Also colaptop.com is not even registe…

> > © 2024 CoLaptop. All rights reserved. > Website copyright is out of date by two years... And the website has been online since then. https://crt.sh/?q=colaptop.pages.dev That's exactly what it should be then. A copyright notice lists the year of publication. Not the current year. > A proper copyright notice consists of three elements: a © symbol, the year of publication, and the copyright owner’s name. https://co…

Yep. If you write

``` © Your Name ```

As many sites do, it may actually invalidate your copyright. You have to put all of the years when you made copyrightable edits to the page. A range like 2010-2025 is only allowed if every single year in that range is included.

Re: Old laptops in a colo as low cost servers

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would like to put my Raspberry Pi Pico in colocation, would it work?

There are a number of places that colocate normal Raspberry Pi. https://lowendbox.com/blog/little-machines-in-big-datacenter... I am sure that some of them either already colocate Pico ones too, or are willing to do so if asked.

The Pi Pico doesn't have networking capabilities, so that would be silly. You're probably thinking of the Pi Zero.

Re: Old laptops in a colo as low cost servers

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Ran an old laptop as home server for years.

It’s OKish as a starting point into selfhosted world but overall not ideal. The battery is a fire risk and the entire thermal design isn’t really geared towards 24/7 operation.

Not really something I’d co locate unless it was a DC physically near me so that stopping by is easy

Re: Old laptops in a colo as low cost servers

#160

The advantage of a laptop is exactly that you can easily host it at home, and own everything. I have one - with an UPS also holding the router and fiber optic and an external HDD. I'm actually working right now to version 2.0 which is a beefed up version - still used laptop (found a great deal on a lenovo P1), but slightly more expensive and I'm waiting on some parts to upgrade. Should be able to even hold the produc…

My home lab rack is a toast rack. Literally, that's how I hold the laptops vertically so they get decent airflow, and it also makes for very easy access. As soon as you go past one laptop it's a thing.
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