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Re: I've sold out

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Post by jmaw »

tasuki wrote: post #104
uxcolumbo wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know much about the factors that determine why one AI coding harness is better than others. Is it system prompts? Or just personal preference in terms of the UX and there isn't actually a better output between using CC or Pi? So what makes Pi better than CC? Is it better than OpenCode?

CC is a steaming pile of vibe-coded bloat. If that rocks your boat, go knock yourself out. Is it better than OpenCode? It's certainly much smaller and doesn't have a client-server architecture - already that is a big win.

You mention the client-server architecture of opencode. Is that a local server or is it calling home to opencode servers?

One of the ideas I like about opencode is the ability to prompt and such from a web browser. So I'm curious if that is the client-server architecture you are talking about, or if it's something else.

For reference, I used replit for some vibe-ish coding for a little bit and really liked that I could easily prompt and view output on my phone when hanging out away from my computer. Or while waiting at the airport for example.

(RIP OG replit by the way. They've pretty much completely pivoted from a REPL to AI, which is pretty hilarious to me given the company name xD)

Re: I've sold out

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Post by trymas »

mijoharas wrote: post #145
xg15 wrote: post #36

In light of all the stuff about Thiel and friends, I'd really stay away from Tolkien/Middle-Earth themed startup names for now...

Ooooh. I didn't know palantir was a tolkien thing[0] until just now! Oh god, that was my first guess but thought some more and it turns out that anduril is too[1]. (I was similarly unaware) Anything else I missed? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palant%C3%ADr [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anduril

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithril_Capital

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithril

Re: I've sold out

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Post by ontouchstart »

karolist wrote: post #124
ontouchstart wrote: post #44

I found out last night via pi.dev. And the new repo of pi didn’t exist yet. I have been working with pi-mono locally for a few months now. Great code base to study. Much higher quality than CC. (I have posted a gist analysis before.) Will keep an eye on the work of these talented engineers and entrepreneurs. Good luck guys!

can you link to that gist? I'd be interested to read through it

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47600817

Re: I've sold out

#154

Post by jmaw »

LexSiga wrote: post #48
inatreecrown2 wrote: post #41

I read most of the post, went to the linked project and still don't have an idea what this is about.

Indeed. Also what a very annoying website.

This could be one of my least favorite website styles ever. Too content dense is overwhelming, but this went WAY too far in the other direction.

If I can't tell what your company is/does without clicking/interacting with the site, what are you even doing?

My other least favorite style is where stuff flies in from the side as you scroll down.

Re: I've sold out

#155

Post by jcstryker »

jen729w wrote: post #47
moralestapia wrote: post #45

>And if you ever feel like we've lost the plot, the fork button on GitHub still works. Always will. Lol, the attitude. 180 degrees from the community that gave him everything he has. Classic.

Oh, catch yourself. Tell me you wouldn't do the same for your family. I run a tiny thing that a lot of people like. Its licence is permissive: if I 'sold out', nobody who is using it today would have to change a damned thing. And you know what? Call me if you wanna buy it. Because here's my priority list: 1. Looking after my family. 2. Looking after yours.

That justification isn't as commenable as you frame it.

The same biological impulse fuels the rampant nepotism and open corruption we seem to selectively whinge about online these days.

Re: I've sold out

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Post by the_mitsuhiko »

walthamstow wrote: post #15

Why does everything have to be named after Lord of the bloody Rings

Armin from Earendil here. I don't know about everything, but I find it disappointing that Tolkien has to "live" with being associated with the companies that are currently named after his works. I want to build a company that is based on better values.

Re: I've sold out

#157

Post by trymas »

philipwhiuk wrote: post #134

Can someone explain what Earendil and Lefos are? The Lefos site immediately throws up a sign in page. The Earendil site just talks about values.

From what I gathered, Lefos is some LLM tool with email interface, with maybe potentially giving Claw-like capabilities to read your inbox.

Earendil seems like some startup focused on open-source founded by a bunch of famous open-source devs. Though I am not sure if they're VC funded, but various mentions of "buying out" make me think that they are.

Re: I've sold out

#158

Post by the_mitsuhiko »

deaux wrote: post #46

This is so disappointing. Finally we had a fantastic, fully OSS, non-profit harness. Very extensible, well-made, minimal, untainted. None of the baggage of OpenCode both in terms of codebase as well as its.. "passionate" leadership, to put it mildly. > Earendil is a public benefit corporation Ah, so like OpenAI then. > But I've also learned what I do not want. I do not want to build my own company around pi. We have…

Armin from Earendil: At the end of the day there is nothing I can demonstrate to you now that we will be doing a good job here. But I want to be able to put back at comments like this in a few years and be able to demonstrate that we made the right calls for everybody involved.

Re: I've sold out

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Post by trymas »

mijoharas wrote: post #148
tinyhouse wrote: post #130

Pi is my preferred coding agent and I'm happy it lands in good hands. At this point the only reason to use CC is access to Opus. I think open source will end up winning the coding agents race among developers at least. We just need a 30B size model with Opus like capabilities for coding. Frontier labs will dominate the Desktop / Web.

Why can't you use opus with pi?

I think author meant that you can't use claude code subscription with non claude code harness/clients (whatever you wanna call it).

Re: I've sold out

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Post by trymas »

dgb23 wrote: post #136
ablation wrote: post #75

What the hell is going on with all these weird tech bros naming their companies after Tolkein mythos?

I don't know what you mean. LOTR is pretty cool.

LotR is cool.

Palantir, Anduril industries and Mithril capital companies are not.

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